2025/26 David Moyes

[st.domingo]

Worth remembering that these attacking numbers are this bad while having the majority of the season with an attacking midfield of Ndiaye, KDH and Jack Actual Grealish

To play devil's advocate - the reason the general feeling outside the club is he's doing a brilliant job, is because people outside the club don't watch us every week and see the performances that make it very clear we've gotten pretty lucky overall.

I wonder what Barry Glendenning thinks…

 

[Toffe3m4n]

I dont think we're good enough mate to be honest. Thats my own take.

We took Utd away this season - but on Monday we were dont by an axis of what £200 mill + signings in one phase of play leading to the goal - Cunha, Mbuemo to Sesko - for the goal - thats what you are up against and we dont have that yet....................yet we were competitive.

We dont even have a team with full backs.

Literally had 3 of them on the bench on Monday night (would've been 4 if not for injury).

Should be Moyes's responsibility - nay his prerogative - to get them on the pitch. It's certainly not all on the players..

 

[Gilbert..]

The failure to recruit a fullback in the past year is down to Moyes though. Not the club.

I would have no qualms about Everton's recruitment strategy if I were an aspirant manager looking to move to a bigger club.

Past year. What about the other 8 or 9.
This is a manager who brought leighton baines to the club for 5m and coleman for 60k.
I think he is awarded some slack since feb last year on evertons recent woeful record on this one.

 

[Milkman]

I dont think we're good enough mate to be honest. Thats my own take.

We took Utd away this season - but on Monday we were dont by an axis of what £200 mill + signings in one phase of play leading to the goal - Cunha, Mbuemo to Sesko - for the goal - thats what you are up against and we dont have that yet....................yet we were competitive.

We dont even have a team with full backs.

We'll never know I guess. I think we could've put in that same level performance with players playing in their correct positions, and I don't think we concede that breakaway goal with Branthwaite at CB.

No denying the full backs issue has killed us this season, but we all knew this in the summer and nothing was done.

 

[Swartzy]

Having a decent striker would definitely change things but playing 6’5” centre halves at fullback and a central midfielder as an attacking wide player has a huge impact as well .

I’m just not sure we’d suddenly be prolific if you dropped a top class striker in there .

A decent striker is needed, but it doesn't move players into the box.

That's the biggest issue, who is ever in the box as an option. Or even just a forward pass option when around the area..

How many times do we turn back just to find a pass, that would be a good stat.

 

[jazzy]

After two losses Moyes dissenters have momentum on online forums like this.

In the general media and outside the club there is a general feeling hes doing a brilliant job.

In terms of expectations:

A) It seems a lot seem to think we are below where we should be with this squad.

B) We are about Par.

C) We are punching a bit were we should be with this squad - im probably here.

Personally I'm happy enough, sure defeats are disappointing etc - but big picture i said id be happy with competing for Europe this season and we are - so we are about were my expectation was. Some heavy hitters (financially) anyway behind us.

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I don't think many fans will argue that we should be much higher in the table.

However the standard of the PL has dropped this season and we had a real opportunity to push on and secure a European spot. That opportunity has been wasted.

The greater frustration though comes from.the safety first approach of Moyes particularly recently even though we are safe from relegation.

Shoehorning his favourites into the team , playing players out of position , stifling creativity and refusing to try to accommodate new signings and an appalling home record only adds to the frustration.

It is right to acknowledge that Moyes has steadied the ship but we desperately need some excitement.

 

[evertony]

After two losses Moyes dissenters have momentum on online forums like this.

In the general media and outside the club there is a general feeling hes doing a brilliant job.

In terms of expectations:

A) It seems a lot seem to think we are below where we should be with this squad.

B) We are about Par.

C) We are punching a bit were we should be with this squad - im probably here.

Personally I'm happy enough, sure defeats are disappointing etc - but big picture i said id be happy with competing for Europe this season and we are - so we are about were my expectation was. Some heavy hitters (financially) anyway behind us.

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Two defeats? We can only dream. Where have you been all season?
You can be somebody who would prefer a more positive manager than the current incumbent irrespective of the results - why does it always need to be considered as 'hatred'? I totally dislike the way he sets-up especially at home, the way he has favourites and doesn't play players on form, the mind-numbingly predictable way we play, his reluctance to attack teams at home, the rude manner in pressers amongst other things. But I don't hate him, I just prefer a more entertaining brand of football.

 

[Neiler]

Literally had 3 of them on the bench on Monday night (would've been 4 if not for injury).

Should be Moyes's responsibility - nay his prerogative - to get them on the pitch. It's certainly not all on the players..

All three dont deserve to play frankly mate. 100%.

Ill be upset if they are next season.

I find that a weird hill to battle on i though Garner and Branthwaite were good - better to what any of the three on the bench served when given opportunities.

 

[evertony]

I don't think many fans will argue that we should be much higher in the table.

However the standard of the PL has dropped this season and we had a real opportunity to push on and secure a European spot. That opportunity has been wasted.

The greater frustration though comes from.the safety first approach of Moyes particularly recently even though we are safe from relegation.

Shoehorning his favourites into the team , playing players out of position , stifling creativity and refusing to try to accommodate new signings and an appalling home record only adds to the frustration.

It is right to acknowledge that Moyes has steadied the ship but we desperately need some excitement.

Nailed it.

 

[degsy]

Friedkin's should've been on the blower to Glasner ages ago by the way. Soon as he's finished up at Palace at season's end then bring him in. No messing about.

For all we know they have been
though they're not exactly known for their Lulu /Shout turn at the karaoke are they?

 

[Neiler]

Two defeats? We can only dream. Where have you been all season?
You can be somebody who would prefer a more positive manager than the current incumbent irrespective of the results - why does it always need to be considered as 'hatred'? I totally dislike the way he sets-up especially at home, the way he has favourites and doesn't play players on form, the mind-numbingly predictable way we play, his reluctance to attack teams at home, the rude manner in pressers amongst other things. But I don't hate him, I just prefer a more entertaining brand of football.

What you will find in popular opinon on this thread will vary in good results and bad mate.

Who said anything about hate.

People can wish for anything they like - no ones stopping anyone from posting n opinion.

However id also highlight when Moyes left year 1 - this was exactly the same sentiment that led to Martinez and people got pretty bored of that pretty quickly that ultimately led to a decade long death spiral we now have to recover from and who have we turned to......the last manager who recued us from the same thing.

Seems the answer is: just get a better manager - why haven't we done that since he left the first time?

 

[davek]

But objectively i think most Evertonians would accept, the club is still recovering - i mean if i asked you do you think we need to invest heavily in the team in the next two transfer windows - you are going to say yes.

So what happens in between, we have a manager who has to try and give the club some kind of bottom line, so we can at least get to a point where we have full backs or we look a passing offering to top players who we may want to come here - so the one we have currently has challenging for Europe - year 1 recovery. Im all right with that.

Will there be growing pains for sure - there was year 1 under Moyes 1.0. But we also know it got better and better. Hes not perfect for sure, but the bottom line in the bottom line.

Perhaps he made a rod for his own back - we're competing for Europe - being relegation fodder has been forgotten about and expectations raised - that's his job and it seems like hes done it - so is that a bad job or a good one.

Most at the start of the season said they would be happy mid-table - yet here we are wanting more - expectations have been raised.

Given how much he's ignored playing the talent brought in last summer Ilm not sure I'd be handing Moyes more cash to spend if I were the owner.

Surely an owner is getting reports back on how poor we look at times and how bringing in new talent more quickly can speed our recovery up?

We'll see what the owner's priority is in the summer. If they leave Moyes in situ then we know they're concentrating on Roma football competitiveness-wise and they see us as an investment to protect before selling.

Big summer coming.

 

[evertony]

I guess in the media they have to mate - however also to play Devils advocate mate, maybe its a more objective then emotional view from result to result.

To put it another way the popular opinion (in the main) last season was he was amazing and also at times this season, either the former was wrong at the time and he's a bad manager, or the present "dinosaur" stuff cant be right in the present.

My own take is the Everton job in the calender years or just over since hes been here - is one of the toughest in the PL considering the inbox - looking at the table posted above objectively, im very alright with what hes done in a calendar year from his starting point.

So, things can't change....it's all black and white? He's a manager who has patches of success followed by bigger patches of drudgery. No doubting he did a good job last season, much in the same way that Dyche did a very good job in his first season under much, much tougher circumstances. But after those promising spells they revert to type and serve up their standard, out-dated fare. Dyche was rightly shown the door and Moyes should be treated likewise in May. Celtic are waiting open-armed for him.

 

[milks]

Past year. What about the other 8 or 9.
This is a manager who brought leighton baines to the club for 5m and coleman for 60k.
I think he is awarded some slack since feb last year on evertons recent woeful record on this one.

The other 8 or 9 years don't matter in the mind of a prospective new manager.

The only concern for Glasner (as an example) will be the current ownership and their transfer strategy. Moshiri and that shitshow is utterly irrelevant.

Several sources have said that Truffert was lined up by Thelwell when Moyes joined last January and was Moyes rejected it.
Moyes has said he's using Jake O'Brien as his benchmark when looking at new right back options.
He doesn't get a pass because Everton signed Coleman for £60k

 

[Harryflashman]

A decent striker is needed, but it doesn't move players into the box.

That's the biggest issue, who is ever in the box as an option. Or even just a forward pass option when around the area..

How many times do we turn back just to find a pass, that would be a good stat.

totally agree , I think having a quality striker improves any side but like you also think the desire for one hides the other obvious issues .

From the stands It feels so obvious what the issues are , so obvious that I think I must just not be getting it .