Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

In response to your first red point, yes I know. I mean in general. When there isn’t a pandemic.

second point - if our systems were better prepared then the world wouldn’t be in such a panic.

while this is of course unprecedented, it doesn’t mean there isn’t a bit of both factors in the systems of prevention and then treatment not being the best they can be mate

and on the healthy point (this isn’t directed at people with underlying issues of course, or illness or the elderly) - well it really should be. If a pandemic isn’t enough to wake people up then God forbid what we need

 

[Neiler]

No. Not at all. The exact opposite. People need to be able to live their lives to the fullest extent possible.

I'm simply pointing out it shows how unprepared the governments were but also in terms of our healthcare systems, and how it is funded and prepared to handle these situations.

And then in society in general. Maybe a positive will be that everyone takes care of themselves a bit more and others too.

I don't see what's wrong about this?

It's a smaller scale, I know, but Singapore was expected to be the worst-hit country after China. They have had - as of yesterday - I believe 243 confirmed cases with 0 deaths.

They did not cause mass panic. They tested and tested and put in preventative measures immediately.

Couldn't European countries have done more along those lines? Some have, I know, and as I said I appreciate Singapore is a much smaller scale, albeit it's however many millions of people in an extremely congested space...

I see where you are coming from mate, this virus and measures is having an impact on your lively hood, creating anxiety and a threat to your way of life. Understandably that would make anyone worried, angry and frustrated. You are just sharing it here.

There will be many on here in the same position in the weeks and months ahead, everyone wishes it will go away, normality is shattered and everyone will have to make adjustments, forced on us without our choosing and through no fault of our own.

Hopefully, governments will do much not yet known to support people materially and hopefully we all recognize how all the holistic losses in each of our daily lives will impact on our mental health and we do our very best on here to support each other in what are likely to be really hard times for society but also for all our members on here.

Lets all try and be as understanding as possible, people will go through their individual losses in different ways, if people need to vent on here im glad here is here as an outlet.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

As my wife is a nurse and at a high risk of catching it I can’t go and see my cancer suffering 89 year old mum on Mother’s Day for crying out loud.

It's a crapper for sure. We've got Czech relatives who are elderly and obviously travelling is out of the question and you do just hope that you'll see them again. All you can do is hope.

 

[BlueToff]

Anyway, I’m gonna go the gym and do loads of coughing and gob on everything.

Very selfish of me I know.

 

[BlueToff]

It's a crapper for sure. We've got Czech relatives who are elderly and obviously travelling is out of the question and you do just hope that you'll see them again. All you can do is hope.

how is it in Czech / Central Europe, Bruce? Are the measures working?

 

[marnie]

I just feel it's a bit crap that everything is getting canned. That's all I should have said, clearly.

I don't get why life is actually worth ploughing on for if you don't have the little things to look forward to.

Atm, it's just influencers self-isolating because they sneezed.

Mate, I work 6 months a year in the tourist industry.If the Christmas gets cancelled I won't have a pot to piss in.There is no point in working yourself up about something you can't control.You can however, be positive and realize we are all in the same boat and do the best for ourselves and others were possible.Oh and sack the gym off.

 

[aazak]

More than 849m children out of school globally - UN
More on the issue of school closures - and the UN's cultural and education arm Unesco says more than 100 countries have implemented nationwide school and university closures. These closures mean that 849 million children and young people worldwide are not in their usual classes, according to the agency.
China is the worst-hit country with more than 233 million children affected, while Pakistan is in second with more than 44 million.

 

[BlueToff]

I see where you are coming from mate, this virus and measures is having an impact on your lively hood, creating anxiety and a threat to your way of life. Understandably that would make anyone worried, angry and frustrated. You are just sharing it here.

There will be many on here in the same position in the weeks and months ahead, everyone wishes it will go away, normality is shattered and everyone will have to make adjustments, forced on us without our choosing and through not fault of our own.

Hopefully, governments will do much not yet known to support people materially and hopefully we all recognize how all the holistic losses in each of our daily lives will impact on our mental health and we do our very best on here to support each other in what are likely to be really hard times for society but all our members on here.

Lets all try and be as understanding as possible, people will go through there individual losses in different ways, if people need to vent on here im glad here is here as an outlet.

Thanks mate

I’m not looking to argue with anyone. I’m not trying to pick a fight. I wasn’t meaning to be a spoilt brat about a festival going. Like I said it’s work and a bit of fun gone - but no it’s not the end of the world and isn’t surprising.

Yes I am worried and Honestly atm the last thing on my mind is actually getting ill from this thing. It’s everything else around it

 

[tsubaki]

Nowt to do with that.

If the gov's plan works - which it still could to an extent - then the NHS won't be overwhelmed. That's my point. Let's hope for the best and not wallow in self pity like we are doing atm. Cancelling everything only piles on the misery.

I've not got a job atm. I'm sending my cv out left, right and centre. My life has been turned on its head in the space of three days. I'm fortunate I don't have a family to fund.

So sorry if I was looking forward to certain parts of the summer.

TBF there is no scenario being proposed in which the NHS does not get overwhelmed; in fact parts of it (the LAS down here for example) are overwhelmed now.

 

[john jako]

Just been to Tesco’s then and witnessed some of the crack down on mass panic buying. There wasn’t much there to buy on mass anyway to be honest. Noticed jelly in pots was being rationed down to two per shopper.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

So Glasto gone now too.

Pathetic.

Honestly what's the point? We might as well all get it and just be miserable all year. Everything's getting cancelled (somehow the Reds will still win the league too).

The absolute panic this has caused is depressing and far more worrying than the actual illness.

It's 14 weeks away and they've canned it. 14. This thing will be over in 6 regardless of the government plans working or not.

If their plan works, the NHS will be able to manage it and life will be able to return to - relatively - normal. More people working from home etc, definitely, but a bit of normality.

If the plan doesn't work then I'm sad to say that by the end of April most people will have had it, have got through it and got an immunity or, sadly, died. And the proportion of people which die from it will still be very small - it's just obviously gonna be a lot more than if the gov's plan to spread out the impact works.

Damn it. I was proper looking forward to paying 300 quid to watch some million selling, boring as piss band like Kings of Leon whilst paying 7 quid for crap ale surrounded by people called Toby and Jocasta.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

how is it in Czech / Central Europe, Bruce? Are the measures working?

Just my opinion like, but they've lost their heads. They started off with a quarantine and shut down pubs, restaurants, shopping centres etc., but left Skoda and big factories like that open (until VW ordered them to be shut for a fortnight this week). The borders are shut (which is causing huge tailbacks of suppliers and obviously no flights in or out), and they've ordered everyone to wear a mask when they go to the shops or risk a hefty fine. Of course they don't really have enough masks, which is hardly ideal, and their actions don't appear to be slowing the spread of the disease (which isn't 'that' big anyway relative to the population). I'd want calmness from a government in these circumstances, and they're not being that imo. I haven't checked in detail, but think they might be paying staff 75% of their salary or something as well, although I don't know much of the detail so take that with a pinch of salt.

 

[BlueToff]

TBF there is no scenario being proposed in which the NHS does not get overwhelmed; in fact parts of it (the LAS down here for example) are overwhelmed now.

well this is also kind of my point - I know I made it badly.

all we can try and do is slow this thing down but I find the idea it’s gonna be around in three months kind of far fetched.

The virus is here to stay until there’s a vaccine so really the only other way for everyone to get through it is a) try and avoid it, which is why the social distancing measures are here and b) if you get it, beat it

that’s it, as it stands. And the healthcare system
Has to be reserved for those people who do get it and really need the help to get through it.

just given how quickly it’s all happened so far it seems strange to think that the above won’t happen in the next 6 weeks as opposed to over 3 months.

Obviously the longer we can spread it out to ease strain on the NHS, the better

 

[Minimeister]

TBF there is no scenario being proposed in which the NHS does not get overwhelmed; in fact parts of it (the LAS down here for example) are overwhelmed now.

Chester has got 18 doctors in self isolation. Not one of these have been tested to see if they have actually got it or not. If they haven't got it then that's 2 weeks off work, then if they do get it, another 2 weeks off work. Start testing health staff you absolute balloons!!

 

[BlueToff]

Just my opinion like, but they've lost their heads. They started off with a quarantine and shut down pubs, restaurants, shopping centres etc., but left Skoda and big factories like that open (until VW ordered them to be shut for a fortnight this week). The borders are shut (which is causing huge tailbacks of suppliers and obviously no flights in or out), and they've ordered everyone to wear a mask when they go to the shops or risk a hefty fine. Of course they don't really have enough masks, which is hardly ideal, and their actions don't appear to be slowing the spread of the disease (which isn't 'that' big anyway relative to the population). I'd want calmness from a government in these circumstances, and they're not being that imo. I haven't checked in detail, but think they might be paying staff 75% of their salary or something as well, although I don't know much of the detail so take that with a pinch of salt.

Sounds grim