Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Barnfred 55]

The media are absolutely going after that Ferguson bloke from SAGE , for whatever reason and whatever agenda it’s open season on him it seems .

That's what our media does. The only thing new here is the individual

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[Bruce Wayne]

saying they haven't been perfect is very generous Bruce. They've been absolutely useless.

The response quite possibly could have been better, but I'm not naive enough to think that the response consists of a dozen crusty Tories in the cabinet, or even a few hundred of them in parliament. Could they have done better? Yes. Could Public Health England have done better? Yes. Could the NHS have done better? Yes. Could the scientific community done better? Possibly. Could Joe Public done better? Again, quite possibly.

And yet the criticism doesn't get labeled at any of the above except the government. Just like with football managers, ultimately the buck stops with them, but lets not pretend it's the manager that misses open goals or jumps with his tiny arms.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

They’re waiting like vultures for Sunday’s announcement ready to ramp it all up again.

It's like the tweet above. I could have sworn that there had numerous comments during the various Brexit and election threads about the high cost of austerity, with that infamous report suggesting however many thousand lives had been lost as a result. Plus of course we've had years of debate around Brexit, and the catastrophe of a no deal Brexit due to the projected 10.7% fall in GDP, yet estimates are that a continued lockdown would be 3 times that figure, and it's apparently okay, no big deal.

 

[Billy Dean]

The response quite possibly could have been better, but I'm not naive enough to think that the response consists of a dozen crusty Tories in the cabinet, or even a few hundred of them in parliament. Could they have done better? Yes. Could Public Health England have done better? Yes. Could the NHS have done better? Yes. Could the scientific community done better? Possibly. Could Joe Public done better? Again, quite possibly.

And yet the criticism doesn't get labeled at any of the above except the government. Just like with football managers, ultimately the buck stops with them, but lets not pretend it's the manager that misses open goals or jumps with his tiny arms.

"quite possibly" lol

 

[peteblue]

A decision to bring in lockdown 10 days earlier would have meant deaths in this first wave were significantly lower (saving a five figure number in terms of number of lives.

It would also have meant we came out of lockdown ten days earlier with fewer people infectious to reduce the risk further.

It would mean a future track, trace, isolate strategy would work much better and allow society to open up more, minimising the economic impact.

Any government that had taken a different decision to the one ours made on 12 March would have fundamentally changed the outcome.

This is not hindsight - most people in the know were shouting about it. See the letter to the BBC from over 200 scientists on 14 March.

Both France and Italy went into full lockdown before Germany. Their death tolls, apparently, are much higher, can you explain.....

 

[peteblue]

Sadly for you pete, you posting excuses is all the evidence anyone would need to see who is ultimately responsible for this.

I try to do it for balance....

 

[Barnfred 55]

Not to speak for him i think the point he was trying to make was joey that you seem to agree that this government are making a balls of things therefore you must have concerns that they can handle anything especially things so important made doubly so given the huge crisis we find ourselves in . That’s not rehashing the Brexit debate just commenting on the professionalism of those in power .

conversations are often fluid and can evolve to topics that might not strictly adhere to what you consider relevant otherwise it’d only be to stray into inbound Uk flights And jokes about @Bruce Wayne and @COYBL25

It doesn't automatically follow that if somebody fouls up one thing that they will do the same to everything

It gives you cause to question their ability but to assume they will get it wrong, merely because they have got other things wrong, is wrong IMO

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Doesn`t suit the DEATH, MURDER and SCUM led agenda by a few on here though.

Its very much like viewing a monty python sketch watching Stepford Tory perform.

 

[peteblue]

saying they haven't been perfect is very generous Bruce. They've been absolutely useless.

QED....

 

[peteblue]

Would this be an accurate explanation for why cases in the UK are not reducing despite lockdown?

No.....

 

[tsubaki]

The response quite possibly could have been better, but I'm not naive enough to think that the response consists of a dozen crusty Tories in the cabinet, or even a few hundred of them in parliament. Could they have done better? Yes. Could Public Health England have done better? Yes. Could the NHS have done better? Yes. Could the scientific community done better? Possibly. Could Joe Public done better? Again, quite possibly.

And yet the criticism doesn't get labeled at any of the above except the government. Just like with football managers, ultimately the buck stops with them, but lets not pretend it's the manager that misses open goals or jumps with his tiny arms.

That’s true, though when they position themselves as the leadership it is the price they pay.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

"quite possibly" lol

I don't think there will be a country around the world where they won't be thinking they could have done things differently. Johnson will rightly attract criticism because he's been practically invisible. Obviously there have been reasons for that to an extent, but the central government figure during all of this has been Hancock. Johnson has been a complete non-entity, and the frequent wheeling out of his dad does little to shake the image of him as an over-entitled buffoon.

 

[jamieni]

 

[davek]

Dave, you couldn't give a stuff, lets face it. You've spent most of the past six months referring to large swathes of the population as unthinking serfs. Don't pretend you care about them all of a sudden.

You're a disgrace. Accusing people of wanting thousands of deaths to make their point. Hang your head in shame.