Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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And the vintners association want to open the pubs next month as well. The absolute scandal of care homes being ignored also. To be fair, we've not had a functioning government for 80 odd days.
The whole thing has been disaster after disaster, a massive call for people to be on call for Ireland attracted 70k people and as of 6 days ago only about 50 yes fifty have been given something to do, there's 2000 people gone through contact tracing tracing and there's only 40 doing it. 115 million per month to rent private hospitals which currently lie empty, great if they are empty it means there's not as many sick as predicted but to rent them at 3 times the cost that the UK government spent doing the same thing is tribunal worthy. Utter farce as I've said before the only thing that stopped us being the worst in the world is low population density and that has nothing to do with the government.
 
If the only restrictions being lifted on sunday are that we can go out more than once a day and also visit family I'll be dissapointed.

I walk the dog twice a day anyway & I actively avoid visiting family at the best of times never mind when in lockdown.

Any numbers for underground barbers preferably of the Turkish variety?

Absolutely gagging for a trim I'll do anything
 
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It has been poorly managed, no argument from me. I have said so all through, but it wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference which political party was in power, it is the CS, PHE and the NHS that are doing 99.99% of the management. The politicians have been led by the CMO and CSA and basically done as they were told. So for some to be shouting murderers etc etc is just crazy.....

A decision to bring in lockdown 10 days earlier would have meant deaths in this first wave were significantly lower (saving a five figure number in terms of number of lives.

It would also have meant we came out of lockdown ten days earlier with fewer people infectious to reduce the risk further.

It would mean a future track, trace, isolate strategy would work much better and allow society to open up more, minimising the economic impact.

Any government that had taken a different decision to the one ours made on 12 March would have fundamentally changed the outcome.

This is not hindsight - most people in the know were shouting about it. See the letter to the BBC from over 200 scientists on 14 March.
 
If the only restrictions being lifted on sunday are that we can go out more than once a day and also visit family I'll be dissapointed.

I walk the dog twice a day anyway & I actively avoid visiting family at the best of times never mind when in lockdown.

Any numbers for underground barbers preferably of the Turkish variety?

Absolutely gagging for a trim I'll do anything

I’m sure if you go onto the likes of Facebook you’ll find someone ?
 
If the only restrictions being lifted on sunday are that we can go out more than once a day and also visit family I'll be dissapointed.

I walk the dog twice a day anyway & I actively avoid visiting family at the best of times never mind when in lockdown.

Any numbers for underground barbers preferably of the Turkish variety?

Absolutely gagging for a trim I'll do anything

Absolutely no way you’ll see hairdressers/barbers/beauty places opened straight away, that will be the middle area of the easing

I’m personally hoping they don’t rush into opening non essential retail until all businesses in that area straight away and at least manage it over a month to give enough time for stores to lay out markers and safety procedures and any that can’t will be told not to open
 
The whole thing has been disaster after disaster, a massive call for people to be on call for Ireland attracted 70k people and as of 6 days ago only about 50 yes fifty have been given something to do, there's 2000 people gone through contact tracing tracing and there's only 40 doing it. 115 million per month to rent private hospitals which currently lie empty, great if they are empty it means there's not as many sick as predicted but to rent them at 3 times the cost that the UK government spent doing the same thing is tribunal worthy. Utter farce as I've said before the only thing that stopped us being the worst in the world is low population density and that has nothing to do with the government.

Good news story in my opinion, like the nightingale situation in the UK we haven't needed the overflow as the worst case scenario clinically hasn't been seen - would it have been remiss for the government not to plan for it - i think so personally. There is a danger of thinking this wont be needed going on, we are just at the end of the beginning of this barely beyond 10% of what the time line is likely to be. Then you have to plan for secondary mortality and the private hospitals are going to be vital in this even if they are never used for Covid, heat attacks, Strokes, Cancer care etc. We need a fluid health system at them moment.The cost will be backed by borrowing from the Eu at historic low rates - if we can borrow to bail out the worlds banks im more then happy to borrow and take on any burden to save the general public lives.

Id also have a different opinion and experience, on recruiting of Volunteers, i can tell you i know more then 100 volunteers who have been put to work in contact tracing, putting together tests, stewarding and in call centers - we have at least 4 times that in our place and we are one hospital, it is tricky and there has to be a vetting process with volunteers for a few reasons, 1) To protect them, you have responsibility to keep them safe and 2) some people are swept up by good will, but they have to have a resilience and skills to deal with the type of work required. 3) Protect the people they will be working with.

We have also really improved our testing, i was tested toward the end of last week, as were all the patients in our place, 20-48 hour turn around - we had problems not in testing - but in processing initially - we have hugely improved since March. we were massively quick of the mark implementing community testing and contact tracing within days of this crisis and built our infrastructure from there - some countries haven't even managed this yet.

On Bruce's Graphs they are a bit misleading, particularity in Ireland, Leinster has over 5 times more the population then Connacht, so it doesn't really take into account population distribution. There is a danger of looking at the graphs through a UK prism, not every country is like the UK. Like Ireland has huge swaths of rural unpopulated areas out side the cities and less of an urban sprawl distribution then the UK, this will mean numbers are less spread out and more concentrated in geographical areas in distribution and concentrated in high population densities.

We've mad mistakes - the nursing homes in particular, but its been far from how you describe in my lived experience.
 
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A decision to bring in lockdown 10 days earlier would have meant deaths in this first wave were significantly lower (saving a five figure number in terms of number of lives.

It would also have meant we came out of lockdown ten days earlier with fewer people infectious to reduce the risk further.

It would mean a future track, trace, isolate strategy would work much better and allow society to open up more, minimising the economic impact.

Any government that had taken a different decision to the one ours made on 12 March would have fundamentally changed the outcome.

This is not hindsight - most people in the know were shouting about it. See the letter to the BBC from over 200 scientists on 14 March.

And if the CCP had told the truth from day one, the whole world would be at least a month further on and thousands would still be alive across the globe.

Let’s not lose sight of the forest for the trees.
 
If the only restrictions being lifted on sunday are that we can go out more than once a day and also visit family I'll be dissapointed.

I walk the dog twice a day anyway & I actively avoid visiting family at the best of times never mind when in lockdown.

Any numbers for underground barbers preferably of the Turkish variety?

Absolutely gagging for a trim I'll do anything
Yer i know a few mate

Lookin forward to monday because once they say you can go out as much as you want thats that

Freedom at last then just wait till pubs and gyms open

The end is near

( feel like alot of people have me on ignore now because dont get anywhere like the bites i did at start)
 
Theres certain of thought that it may follow the 1918 Spanish Flu in that the second peak took a huge amount of lives compared to the first wave.
This is it, unless a miracle vaccine is found soon which is unlikely - potentially we can all be expecting an autumn / winter lockdown - no sunbathing, sunny walks, cutting the grass and barbecues - I would imagine this current lockdown will be a picnic compared to this.
 
This is it, unless a miracle vaccine is found soon which is unlikely - potentially we can all be expecting an autumn / winter lockdown - no sunbathing, sunny walks, cutting the grass and barbecues - I would imagine this current lockdown will be a picnic compared to this.
Let's face it, in this country, as compared with Spain for example, there has been no lockdown. Not really.
 
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