Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Rook]

I've never been as embarrassed and ashamed of this country as I am right now. It's repulsive to have witnessed this moment. And I'll bet I'm not alone in feeling that too.

We are led by liars and sociopaths and psychos.


THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING.

No one is being held accountable, no one will be held accountable. It only gets worse from here on (see America: post 2008).

 

[The Penalty Box Dancer]

The whole thing has been a farce since the end of January. When the UK had 2 positive cases, why didn't we limit the spread right there and then? Where was SAGE at this point? Look at the number of cases, the number of deaths, we are going to rise again when restrictions are lifted. Case numbers will go up and deaths will continue. In their opinion, they look at the available NHS capacity and think thats a reason enough to end the lockdown as they can cope with further infections. It's all going to end badly and we are seeing the government switching strategies very reactively

 

[Joey66]

It's a sad time two years time everybody will be affected by this virus financially, and employment wise - plus the fact when will this awful virus fade away worldwide .....
Many changes, and challenges are ahead.,.,..

 

[Roger Milla]

What was the point of quarantining the dozen people on the Wirral that they'd flew in from Wuhan months ago when they've had open borders ever since?

I just can't get my head around that utterly pointless exercise

 

[Jebus_lives]

It's a sad time two years time everybody will be affected by this virus financially, and employment wise - plus the fact when will this awful virus fade away worldwide .....
Many changes, and challenges are ahead.,.,..

Brexit will see us bounce back double fast...

 

[tim cahill]

What was the point of quarantining the dozen people on the Wirral that they'd flew in from Wuhan months ago when they've had open borders ever since?

I just can't get my head around that utterly pointless exercise

It was just for show. They treat the population like idiots. The embarrassing thing is that it works, they've never been so popular.

 

[marnie]

I was talking with a mate today, a farmer with a decent beef herd and a variety of crops. He said very similar but said his worry was that the abattoirs are running down because of social distancing rules etc and the overall supply chain isn’t looking good. Cheap meat is being imported and he feels there could be a food supply issue coming upon us soon....

Was he propping up the end of your bar with a basket of meat during your lock in ? lol lol

 

[marnie]

It's a sad time two years time everybody will be affected by this virus financially, and employment wise - plus the fact when will this awful virus fade away worldwide .....
Many changes, and challenges are ahead.,.,..

We as humans adapt mate.Don't worry sunshine xx

 

[mill]

Professor Neil Ferguson's record for 'predicting' the outcomes of diseases using his modelling has been abysmal to say the least.

"When it comes to wildly inaccurate predictions Prof. Ferguson’s work at Imperial College has a long and distinguished history. In 2002, he said that 50,000 people in the UK would die from “mad cow disease”, to date less than 200 have passed away; he predicted 200 million global deaths from the H5N1 bird flu. Currently it is a suspected factor in the deaths of 455 people world wide; in 2009 he told the UK Government that 65,000 could die from swine flu in the UK and worked with the World Health Organisation to predict millions of deaths from the H1N1 global flu pandemic.

Suspected resultant UK deaths from swine flu were estimated to be 457 and the global total showed 18,500 laboratory-confirmed deaths from the H1N1 pandemic".

No wonder some in Australia are tearing into the UK government and 'experts',
Coronavirus: Where did the UK's COVID-19 response go wrong?

"Says David Hunter, an Australian-educated professor of epidemiology and medicine at the University of Oxford: "It's very easy in hindsight to state the obvious, which is that the lockdown came too late.

"The British response so far is not a model to follow. It has one of the worst epidemics in Europe and the world. That may have happened anyway. There's no way to know for sure, but some aspects of the response have almost certainly contributed to the high mortality."

Has no one else picked up on the flaw in the logic here for blaming Neil Ferguson here?

This article says that he hss previous for predicting that outbreaks will be much worse than they turn out to be.

But if this was the advice that the government were following, that the outbreak was going to be worse, then why were the lockdown measures not more stringent?

Logically it doesn’t make sense to blame the science, if the science was saying it’ll be a lot worse than it is.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

Trump thinks that's the capital of Peru.

And that Sean Penn is the capital of Cambodia.

 

[BigBlueConk]

The virus will not go away anytime soon, because these last few weeks have exposed a whole new level of stupid in a lot of people.
It might not be the killer some thought it might be, but a killer all the same.

 

[RAFUH]

The Vit D link is still very speculative at the moment, hence the need for further testing and I'll quote @RAFUH who knows far more about this than I do.

FWIW My doctor, who as I have mentioned is a rather forceful character, was very insistent given my blood-work that I took the Vit D supplements despite living in a sunny climate.

A true deficiency needs to be corrected

 

[Eggs]

Of course, they are politicians. It doesn’t mean we have to believe it though......

.....which ever way we consider these ‘league tables’, they are a reflection of how the pandemic has been handled in this country.

Tory’s and Tory voters will play them down but would rejoice in them if they were positive. Tory and Tory voters would highlight them as disastrous if Labour was in power.

They can’t be dismissed. Even if we live on a crowded island, they are still very poor. Look beyond your politics, listen to those on the front-line and it’s been poorly managed.

 

[Eggs]

...after the Tory’s were banging on about it for days, I see the much heralded and long-awaited PPE equipment on the flight from Turkey cannot be used because it’s not of the required standard.

What a shambles.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Acknowledging the mistakes with Care home, community and PPE, means they can’t ignore nor neglect these again, I’m personally happy about that.

Mmm, people literally have to die for them to heed a lesson and it took an enormous amount of pressure to include care home and community care COVID deaths. A lesson that was predicted and debated, a lesson that has been avoided by other countries, because they were prepared and responded better.
Its why we have the largest death toll in our part of the world. First opportunity Tory Government will get it will revert back to ideology. In fact started already by shipping out NHS services wholesale and without the normal scrunity to preferred private sector under the cover of the Covid bill.