Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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davek said:
I can see why you'd say that: oppose it and the frustration goes onto Labour in the short term and pressure lifts from the murderous government.

However, the LP have to take unpopular decisions for some in order to remain consistent on the need for a national consensus on easing lockdown. They cant back any current Tory plan; the trade unions are up in arms against proposed measures to open up again.

If the LP completely oppose this lifting then they'll be principled and reap the political benefit when, not if, it all goes arse up on lockdown easing.
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In spirit Labour can’t oppose a lifting of restrictions in my opinion mate, but they can argue on the timeline,they can come upwith a delayed detailed road map, the UK are three weeks minimum in my opinion And if I was Labor I’d be working on it and releasing it on Sunday as theTories are doing theirs. Pointing out the clinical reasoning behind it and the failed reasons why the UK are three weeks behind the rest of Europe, why the curve hasn’t been flattened.

I don’t think Boris is daft enough, to release a plan on Monday and have people going back to work Monday, it’s just bananas, with no workplace prepared. Public health nightmare. It will be token showmanship. Misdirection.

Labor need to tap in to and find a balance between meeting the nations two contrasting emotions, fear and anger/frustration. It’s possible with a reassuring but non draconian reasonable clear alternative road map.
 
LinekersLegs said:
Still needs further research but Vitamin D might be another reason for vulnerability of BAME community.
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A few years back I was told my Vit D levels were equivalent to those of BAME, I am a white male, introduced to Vit D, Mushrooms and more Sun, the effects of just restoring my Vit D levels on my conditions was truly amazing. My Dr at the time asserted that it is rare effect on a White Male to have such a deficiency and after doing some research recently it is very possible that the BAME community suffer worse from Covid and other illnesses due to their lack of absorption of Vit D.
 
peteblue said:
Feeling a bit smug here as I’d read a Medical article last September about winter vitamin D deficiency and decided to take daily vitamin D tablets and I still do. I expect I’ll read tomorrow that they are bad for you and cause coronavirus......
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My recent post is about Vit D, I have been much better in general since starting but it can cause calcification from what I have read, so bone spurs, perhaps artery deposits but providing you stick to recommended dose and have blood tests they are well worth taking. Just from my perspective, *not recommended without medical consultation!
 
peteblue said:
Feeling a bit smug here as I’d read a Medical article last September about winter vitamin D deficiency and decided to take daily vitamin D tablets and I still do. I expect I’ll read tomorrow that they are bad for you and cause coronavirus......
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The Vit D link is still very speculative at the moment, hence the need for further testing and I'll quote @RAFUH who knows far more about this than I do.
RAFUH said:
There was a massive study done a few years back. No benefit for vitamin supplementation unless you have a deficiency.

Nothing horribly wrong with taking them so long as it’s kept to recommend daily allowances as many are very toxic if you get too much.
But nothing good will come of it either so a waste of money and could give a false sense of security.
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FWIW My doctor, who as I have mentioned is a rather forceful character, was very insistent given my blood-work that I took the Vit D supplements despite living in a sunny climate.
 
peteblue said:
The £ will survive as it’s our only currency. He said the € may not survive and it may not......
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The point was, based on how the UK Government have managed this pandemic, would you trust them with Brexit.

I don't expect you to answer that, I already know you fawn over Johnson like Smithers over Mr Burns, I was curious as to @Joey66 thoughts, such as they are.
 
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Neiler said:
In spirit Labour can’t oppose a lifting of restrictions in my opinion mate, but they can argue on the timeline,they can come upwith a delayed detailed road map, the UK are three weeks minimum in my opinion And if I was Labor I’d be working on it and releasing it on Sunday as theTories are doing theirs. Pointing out the clinical reasoning behind it and the failed reasons why the UK are three weeks behind the rest of Europe, why the curve hasn’t been flattened.

I don’t think Boris is daft enough, to release a plan on Monday and have people going back to work Monday, it’s just bananas, with no workplace prepared. Public health nightmare. It will be token showmanship. Misdirection.

Labor need to tap in to and find a balance between meeting the nations two contrasting emotions, fear and anger/frustration. It’s possible with a reassuring but non draconian reasonable clear alternative road map.
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He wont overtly do that; but he'll use enough dog whistles to get the message out that the stay at home period is at an end.

These people have made the decision to refloat the economy...it wont matter one thing to them that the curve is still nowhere near flattening as with other countries looking to step by step come out of lockdown. This lot have made it clear they aren't remotley arsed about casualty rates. They'll just try and spin it away by muddying the waters on counting methodology vis-a-vis other nations.

I have absolutely no doubt in my mind now that this government are a fundamentalist socio-economic sect intent on using us as a giant laboratory.

People need to wake up here on this side of the Irish Sea and understand they are seen as expendable economic units and not humans.
 
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