Chavez Government & Haiti

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Talk about Chinese whispers - how did this thread become about a) how much aid the US is sending to Haiti (not even mentioned) and b ) whether the US are set to invade Haiti and colonise it (the jumpiness of Chavez was mentioned but that's about it). My OP was about why aid wasn't finding its way where it needed to go after about 10 days of humanitarian crisis.

You lot are trigger happy :unsure:
 
davek said:
Talk about Chinese whispers - how did this thread become about a) how much aid the US is sending to Haiti (not even mentioned) and b ) whether the US are set to invade Haiti and colonise it (the jumpiness of Chavez was mentioned but that's about it). My OP was about why aid wasn't finding its way where it needed to go after about 10 days of humanitarian crisis.

You lot are trigger happy :unsure:
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OP:
A) You pointed out the ammount of troops in Haiti as if there was an alterior motive...
B) You posted a link of Chavez's claim of some Earthquake weapon. "As if this claim held weight"

Now you could have just asked "why is aid not getting to the hatians as timely as I Dave would like" ..

The answer lies on an island totaly destroyed and on the brink of chaos... Its not as easy as one would think...
 
monty said:
have the Americans withdrawn from Grenada yet? Serious question following that islands occupation
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Ahem, can anyone answer my question please, you all seem to know so much.........................what about Grenada
 
monty said:
Ahem, can anyone answer my question please, you all seem to know so much.........................what about Grenada
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Got me on that one. Ronnie & the cold war. Made sure the communists didn't expand there role close to home. Not much Imperialism there though. The communists ousted the locals in the late seventies after the Brits handed over the land.

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/reed200310240950.asp

Decent explanation.

http://articles.latimes.com/1985-06-12/news/mn-6111_1_american-military-police
 
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TX Bill said:
Apparently you don't understand or comprehend the difference between these two terms so let me give you a little helping hand:

Occupation Definition | Definition of Occupation at Dictionary.com

Liberation Definition | Definition of Liberation at Dictionary.com
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Wel the liberation definitions don't fit the bill do they?

1.the act of liberating or the state of being liberated.

Swapping a dictator with a puppet government that signs on the dotted line for every western contractor to plunder Iraqi resources doesn't sound like much of a good deal for the majority.

2.the act or fact of gaining equal rights or full social or economic opportunities for a particular group.

Now the theocrats from the Shia community can enjoy pulling the strings - Sunnis not so happy...maybe they'll be 'liberated' soon?
 
Dave, I can hear North Korea calling, happen you would be content there. Could be a bit difficult following the football as old Kim Il Sung or whetever does not like the internet.

Perhaps his name is actually Who Flung Dung.:P
 
davek said:
Wel the liberation definitions don't fit the bill do they?

1.the act of liberating or the state of being liberated.

Swapping a dictator with a puppet government that signs on the dotted line for every western contractor to plunder Iraqi resources doesn't sound like much of a good deal for the majority.

2.the act or fact of gaining equal rights or full social or economic opportunities for a particular group.

Now the theocrats from the Shia community can enjoy pulling the strings - Sunnis not so happy...maybe they'll be 'liberated' soon?
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Ahhhh...the good old lefty meme that we heard so much about.

WAR !!! OIL !!!! HALLIBURTON !!!!

Funny Dave as I'm confident that you could come up with loads of evidence pointing to the general Iraqi population on record as saying that it was all much better under the Hussein regime.

Hey, by the way, that puppet government executed Chemical Ali a few days ago for the Kurdish genocide that he implemented in the late 80's. Good guy that by your so called logic.

Please do come to the conversation with fact based opinion or don't come at all.
 
TX Bill said:
Ahhhh...the good old lefty meme that we heard so much about.

WAR !!! OIL !!!! HALLIBURTON !!!!

Funny Dave as I'm confident that you could come up with loads of evidence pointing to the general Iraqi population on record as saying that it was all much better under the Hussein regime.

Hey, by the way, that puppet government executed Chemical Ali a few days ago for the Kurdish genocide that he implemented in the late 80's. Good guy that by your so called logic.

Please do come to the conversation with fact based opinion or don't come at all.
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Oh yeah, that's right. Western (and Asian) companies didn't just get their snouts in the Iraqi oil fields last year in those two auctions did they? I must have been imagining that.

Tremendous leap, by the way: criticism of US foreign policy = support for Iraqi dictators. No grey areas in your world, eh?

:lol:
 
davek said:
Oh yeah, that's right. Western (and Asian) companies didn't just get their snouts in the Iraqi oil fields last year in those two auctions did they? I must have been imagining that.

Tremendous leap, by the way: criticism of US foreign policy = support for Iraqi dictators. No grey areas in your world, eh?

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Nor yours.

hahahahaha....yeah, like who else is gonna do it? Seriously. Is this all you have? Some sort of conspiracy because Western and Asian oil companies (who happen to be the best in the business) got the contracts to get the oil pumping again.

Please, continue....
 
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