Chavez Government & Haiti

[shketo]

This thread is like a dead horse. Going nowhere.

Maybe it refused to be evacuated when ordered to, because it had nowhere to go. Damned threads bring it all on themselves.

 

[Dylan]

You defended Fox by stating they - unlike broadcasters that, for you, have a left bias - offer balance amongst their anchor team. If 'defend' is the wrong choice of word there, what was the accurate one to use?.

No I did not defend them. I merely pointed out that they are the only network who made an effort at playing it fair. O'Reilly is a bit crazy right wing for me, as are most of the other anchors on Fox. Just like CBS and CNN are far to left in their 'news reporting'

Refused or had little means to leave? In any case, an inadequate levee surely comes highest in the hierarchy of blame. .

Buses. Lots and lots of buses provided for transportation out of New Orleans. Hardly any of them utilized. I do remember lots of people refusing to leave, as shown on all the media outlets (including the bastions of the left in the USA, CNN). They made their choice to stay, despite repeated warnings. Effort was made, short of the National Guard moving in and physically restraining people and putting them on buses. But then you would be out complaining about human rights violations.

Well, first of all it isn't my suggestion - so you can hold onto your disgust. Second, it's the displacement of a black population that Pilger and others point to, not holding back relief. They're not saying it was genocide, they're belief is that it was a clearing of the decks for reshaping the social architecture of the region for economic and political purposes. Human engineering. Are they right? I dont know, it wasn't my point so I haven't looked.

The fact you post the article would allude to you supporting that claim.

 

[Upper Sturry Sherbets]

Is Donovan or Moutinho included in this somewhere. :blink:

 

[davek]

No I did not defend them. I merely pointed out that they are the only network who made an effort at playing it fair. O'Reilly is a bit crazy right wing for me, as are most of the other anchors on Fox. Just like CBS and CNN are far to left in their 'news reporting'

Pointing out and defending are the same things in this context. I'm not trying to portray you as a Fox News fed right winger here, merely replying to your initial barb about not taking seriously absurd journalism...which Fox News, most would agree, exemplifies.

Buses. Lots and lots of buses provided for transportation out of New Orleans. Hardly any of them utilized. I do remember lots of people refusing to leave, as shown on all the media outlets (including the bastions of the left in the USA, CNN). They made their choice to stay, despite repeated warnings. Effort was made, short of the National Guard moving in and physically restraining people and putting them on buses. But then you would be out complaining about human rights violations.

No, the city should have been protected properly in the first place with a better levee. Pointing at people's failure to leave their home and accept refugee status is just blaming the victims.

The fact you post the article would allude to you supporting that claim.

The main thrust of the article was Haiti. The thread is about Haiti. Katrina was a detour of your making.

 

[pfim]

haiti-aid-efforts-go-awry-in-the-convoy-to-nowhere: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance

I'm just posting this article for informational purposes only. I am not making a political statement by posting this article, nor am I aligning myself in any way with its author or publisher.

 

[davek]

haiti-aid-efforts-go-awry-in-the-convoy-to-nowhere: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance

I'm just posting this article for informational purposes only. I am not making a political statement by posting this article, nor am I aligning myself in any way with its author or publisher.

Unbelievable. What a carry on! How can it go so wrong?

 

[Goat]

Is this thread where Dave said something about an Earthquake Bomb?

Ive skipped most of this, but that bit did catch my eye.

 

[chicoazul]

Is this thread where Dave said something about an Earthquake Bomb?

Ive skipped most of this, but that bit did catch my eye.

It's in my top ten fave Dave posts.

 

[Goat]

I nearly choked on a bagel whilst reading it.

 

[Dylan]

Pointing out and defending are the same things in this context. I'm not trying to portray you as a Fox News fed right winger here, merely replying to your initial barb about not taking seriously absurd journalism...which Fox News, most would agree, exemplifies.

I don't feckin' watch the damn show. I do know it stopped last year, if my memory serves

No, the city should have been protected properly in the first place with a better levee. Pointing at people's failure to leave their home and accept refugee status is just blaming the victims.

Yes, it needed a better levee. But with all the mindless bureaucracy prevalent in the world today, it took a disaster of that proportion to make it happen. Sad, but true, we can't preempt every major disaster that befalls the world. Humanity will do it's best, but it is always the easiest thing in the world to point and issue blame.

The main thrust of the article was Haiti. The thread is about Haiti. Katrina was a detour of your making.

That is a fair point, but the article directly mentions this incident, which brings it into play. That is how this verbal sparring works, isn't it? Don't want something to be debated, don't link it/say it etc etc.

 

[chicoazul]

Dave is defo prefers Roswell to Rodwell.

 

[davek]

Just for the record: I dont think the US triggered the earth quake.

And I'm not anti-American.

You do, though, get hit with the House of Un-American Activities Committee if you query the American Govt/military.

Yanks Out!

 

[chicoazul]

What's your position on Bill Kenwright Davek?

 

[davek]

What's your position on Bill Kenwright Davek?

Just...

 

[Grogtank]

The OP saddened me. The response to it has made me happy to be a member of this forum.