Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%
  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%
  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Total voters
    372
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I tell you what I have seen. One of my local doctors built four large new homes in his garden then retired. Another retired being a GP to then take up a senior role within the NHS and the third who bought himself a brand new Landrover Defender station wagon. Money doesn't seem to be a problem to these guys.......

The GPs, consultants and senior managers are doing okay, but meanwhile hospital wards are understaffed, new medicine is poorly funded and waiting lists are growing.

There is no doubt that the NHS is in a pretty bad state at the moment. It's the patient who falls sick, rather than the doctor who is choosing his next Landrover, that is the victim.
 
I was inclined to agree, but then I saw this:



They actually want to lose. If any one of them had ever had a proper job, they'd surely know that bank holidays come out of most people's holiday entitlements every year, so most won't be better off at all.


No offence Mrk, but this just highlights what is wrong with politics in this country - Corbyn gets loads for not recognizing that bank holidays are taken out of some people's holiday entitlements, but no-one complains that some businesses take bank holidays out of people's holiday entitlements.
 
Clint, do you think Corbyn stands any chance in the General Election?

I mean, Donald Trump is the POTUS and we voted to leave Europe, so forecasts are clearly worthless at the moment - but, aside from agreeing with his policies, do you have any belief in him becoming the next PM?

It's not looking likely right now is it, not least because of the disgracefully biased reporting of him in the media. But, I truly hope, maybe even expect, his integrity, his message to get through somehow in the next six weeks. Let's see where we are in 3 weeks....
 
No offence Mrk, but this just highlights what is wrong with politics in this country - Corbyn gets loads for not recognizing that bank holidays are taken out of some people's holiday entitlements, but no-one complains that some businesses take bank holidays out of people's holiday entitlements.

Including Corbyn, clearly. Either that or he simply doesn't understand the way it works, which I'm willing to concede is a very real possibility.
 
Including Corbyn, clearly. Either that or he simply doesn't understand the way it works, which I'm willing to concede is a very real possibility.

I agree there, indeed I'd love to see them spend a considerable amount of time on the whole issue of jobs, terms and conditions and the changes that they are going through for many people - there is probably a lot more hay to be made there than in daft pronouncements about raising the minimum wage.
 
Before 1998 UK workers got generally 20 days - 4 weeks plus Bank Holidays. The Blair government introduced into legislation the 28 days that included 8 Bank holidays. All workers are entitled to 28 days so if Corbyn introduces 4 more Bank Holidays, there would have to be new legislation, that will mean all workers will then have 32 days paid holidays. Sounds great to me. Or we could all demand the same paid holidays as MPs, now that would be a vote winner.
 
Before 1998 UK workers got generally 20 days - 4 weeks plus Bank Holidays. The Blair government introduced into legislation the 28 days that included 8 Bank holidays. All workers are entitled to 28 days so if Corbyn introduces 4 more Bank Holidays, there would have to be new legislation, that will mean all workers will then have 32 days paid holidays. Sounds great to me. Or we could all demand the same paid holidays as MPs, now that would be a vote winner.

This is the problem with Corbyn's socialist Utopia. Why not make it 50 days holiday a year? And why not bump up the min wage to £50/hr? If more is always better then lets just go the whole hog.
 
This is the problem with Corbyn's socialist Utopia. Why not make it 50 days holiday a year? And why not bump up the min wage to £50/hr? If more is always better then lets just go the whole hog.

You don't get my vote unless you throw in only working 6 hours a day, having Friday as a 'slumber' day and days off to shop.
 
This is the problem with Corbyn's socialist Utopia. Why not make it 50 days holiday a year? And why not bump up the min wage to £50/hr? If more is always better then lets just go the whole hog.

My view is that we have things backwards at the moment.

Those that I believe contribute most to society like nurses and teachers are low paid or in the case of care workers worse than that even (almost certainly minimum wage and sometimes worse than that if zero hours or travelling times are taken into account)

Those that don't contribute to enriching anyone's life or actually subtract from it like the worst parts of the financial industry (short term currency traders and speculators etc) are richly rewarded financially.

I believe we need to go even further than Corbyn in remodelling society
 
You can have the Tories or you can have an NHS. But, you can't have both....
The most repeated myth ever. It is brought out by Labour before every election, and never actually happens. If the Tories really wanted to destroy the NHS they would've done it by now. It is still here.

And even if it is partly privatised, that isn't necessarily a terrible thing. Less strain on the NHS budget, better quality service, and more choice for the population.
 
The most repeated myth ever. It is brought out by Labour before every election, and never actually happens. If the Tories really wanted to destroy the NHS they would've done it by now. It is still here.

And even if it is partly privatised, that isn't necessarily a terrible thing. Less strain on the NHS budget, better quality service, and more choice for the population.

That isn't the privatization we have gotten and would get, though. It costs more, delivers a worse service, and they sell the service off in monopolies.
 
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