Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%
  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%
  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Total voters
    372
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Hope you can read the whole thread from this tweet, its in the replies of the original tweet.


This is precisely why we need a strong labour party that appeals to everyone and not just there for the unions.

By choosing Corbyn twice they have split the party and made them unelectable. If there was credible alternative then Tories would be forced to tread more carefully.
 
For example, I don't think it's physically possible to end rough sleeping. We can lower it and give best possible shelter for the vulnerable but due to drugs addiction etc I don't think we can end it 100%. He does utopia politics is basically my point.
Some of Corbyn's desires are admirable, others are not. However, I have little to zero confidence that he'd be able to adopt the admirable ideals.

Basically, it's all well and good making populist promises but the real issue is that large swathes of the populous understand they're unrealistic.

Or at least it's unrealistic to expect Corbyn and co to successfully adopt them. There'll be those who do love the ol' sound bites however.
 
This is precisely why we need a strong labour party that appeals to everyone and not just there for the unions.

By choosing Corbyn twice they have split the party and made them unelectable. If there was credible alternative then Tories would be forced to tread more carefully.
There was a credible alternative to the Tory's (a lot more centre than Corbyn) in Miliband. What happened there? Labour failed then so has went more left, Corbyn defied the odds and became leader (very unelectable behaviour that..) so now let's give him a chance in this GE. If you dislike Corbyn but have voted Labour in the past, surely don't waste your vote because of one man, vote for the whole party.
 
Corbyn on Marr instantly showing his unelectability via stupid answers on the nuclear question.

What did he say? I like him on the nuclear issues. Everyone's asking how he would pay for some of his promises. Well, not replacing Trident would help for starters...
 
There was a credible alternative to the Tory's (a lot more centre than Corbyn) in Miliband. What happened there? Labour failed then so has went more left, Corbyn defied the odds and became leader (very unelectable behaviour that..) so now let's give him a chance in this GE. If you dislike Corbyn but have voted Labour in the past, surely don't waste your vote because of one man, vote for the whole party.

Ed was left of the previous Labour government (hence the nickname Red Ed) so to get over the Blair and then to a lessor extent Brown administrations, the party shifted left under his direction and when that failed it shifted further left with Corbyn. What do you think is going to happen at the election because of that? The public don't want left light so that must mean they want all out left? No.

One of Ed's parting gifts was to give the ordinary members of the Labour party just as much influence as Labour MPs in choosing a leader. Seeing the base of the party are unionists it's no surprise that a true socialist like Corbyn was elected, the same will probably happen again until the rules are changed again. Here is some details about it:
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/17/labour-leadership-battle-jeremy-corbyn-party-organisation

I think Corbyn was put on the leadership ballot by one MP who decided that they needed to have a discussion regarding all sides of the party, they thought he had zero chance of getting in. (oh how they regret that now) So basically you have the PLP with a leader they don't want. (bar from his trusted friends mcdonnell/abbott and anyone he has bribed with a frontbench job)

So my question would be why would I vote for a party that is divided in such a bitter way? It is impossible for them to govern. Say they got in power, unless Corbyn gives in to the MPs demands (which he won't) within a few months and a few bad defeats for the government a motion for a vote of no confidence will be tabled and we will have another election. This will basically damage the Labour party further and make them unelectable for a generation to come.
 
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The lasy bullet point tells us a lot about the real state of affairs:

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