Current Affairs World War 3

[Baines' left foot]

More than a third of under-40s would refuse conscription in the event of a world war

This figure is higher than the number who say they would either volunteer or accept conscription - although if the British mainland were under threat more would be willing to fight

yougov.co.uk

Turns out people aren't bothered about fighting for a country that has done nothing but screw them over for 14 years.

The absolute shock and gall of those young people.

 

[jamieni]

Unfortunately this is the reality……

Correct. It will always be a tinderbox for one reason or another. Which is why nuclear non proliferation is such a massive issue and why, imo, we should be looking to resolve conflicts or potential conflicts with Russia and China and get all the “great powers” on board with arms control again.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Correct. It will always be a tinderbox for one reason or another. Which is why nuclear non proliferation is such a massive issue and why, imo, we should be looking to resolve conflicts or potential conflicts with Russia and China and get all the “great powers” on board with arms control again.

Sad fact is nobody trusts each other as the empire building continues.

 

[LostLegend]

 

[Rita_Poon]

Some joker on channel 4 news talking up iran's chances vs the us like it was already won on iran's behalf. deranged.

 

[Runub]

I’m no expert but the US are claiming that the recent drone attack in Jordon was not intercepted by their air defence because a friendly drone was returning to the base at the same time. Surely they can tell the difference otherwise that would be a major handicap?

 

[Martin Alvito]

Correct. It will always be a tinderbox for one reason or another. Which is why nuclear non proliferation is such a massive issue and why, imo, we should be looking to resolve conflicts or potential conflicts with Russia and China and get all the “great powers” on board with arms control again.

Unfortunately, that's not possible short of handing over Ukraine, Taiwan and the South China Sea. If we like having Europe disarmed and free, conflict with Russia is the price. If we like allied, democratic trading partners in the Far East, who keep prices down on many things we consume, conflict with China is the price.

They're using the people of the Middle East as pawns in a cynical game to keep the United States distracted, and put an isolationist leader in the White House who will let them run amok. Both countries are implacably hostile to US, UK and European interests, as things stand.

The only way we can negotiate with them is Munich. Major concessions will lead to a fresh list of demands, not peace in our time. The good news is we can win without a fight if we hang together. The bad news is that many people do not see through foreign-backed propaganda and disinformation campaigns advising them to hang separately.

 

[efcfanwirral]

I’m no expert but the US are claiming that the recent drone attack in Jordon was not intercepted by their air defence because a friendly drone was returning to the base at the same time. Surely they can tell the difference otherwise that would be a major handicap?

Its definitely pointed out a little flaw...

 

[efcfanwirral]

They're using the people of the Middle East as pawns in a cynical game to keep the United States distracted, and put an isolationist leader in the White House who will let them run amok.

Maybe if America didn't see every part of the world as something it needs to control to "protect its interests" it wouldn't be possible to do that...

 

[Martin Alvito]

Maybe if America didn't see every part of the world as something it needs to control to "protect its interests" it wouldn't be possible to do that...

This is a bit like suggesting the New York Times has no business running a chess column. I did not make the board, the pieces or the game state. I'm just telling you the implications.

 

[efcfanwirral]

This is a bit like suggesting the New York Times has no business running a chess column. I did not make the board, the pieces or the game state. I'm just telling you the implications.

Don't tell me they actually have a chess column? I can't work out if you're joking about that

 

[jamieni]

Unfortunately, that's not possible short of handing over Ukraine, Taiwan and the South China Sea. If we like having Europe disarmed and free, conflict with Russia is the price. If we like allied, democratic trading partners in the Far East, who keep prices down on many things we consume, conflict with China is the price.

They're using the people of the Middle East as pawns in a cynical game to keep the United States distracted, and put an isolationist leader in the White House who will let them run amok. Both countries are implacably hostile to US, UK and European interests, as things stand.

The only way we can negotiate with them is Munich. Major concessions will lead to a fresh list of demands, not peace in our time. The good news is we can win without a fight if we hang together. The bad news is that many people do not see through foreign-backed propaganda and disinformation campaigns advising them to hang separately.

I don’t disagree whatsoever. There has to be a credible deterrence to prevent both pressing their interests too far, or attempting to escalate in the expectation that the west will do nothing. I think the Chinese are definitely rational enough not to use nuclear weapons and I imagine the Russian bluster is just that. It’s just much easier for things to be managed when there are limited states with nuclear capability. And that kind of needs the big 3, so to speak, policing it.

There are too many parallels with the late 30s for my liking at the min but a mixture of military readiness and diplomacy may yet see us through.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Don't tell me they actually have a chess column? I can't work out if you're joking about that

Daniel Naroditsky writes it, these days. It died a few years back, then was resurrected. Robert Byrne wrote it when it was relevant, in the sense that it was syndicated all over the place.

 

[LostLegend]

There are too many parallels with the late 30s for my liking at the min

Even the 1910's - although not quite as close to the edge of the precipice.
Who'll be our Gavrilo Princip this time around?

 

[Drico]

What is Bidens next move

Out of the White House?