That's a poor attempt.
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That's a poor attempt.
bluejock
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So was our performance.
Over the last 170 or so league games we've won more and lost less than them. Last season we won more and lost less. This season we've also won more and lost less.
Point at individual games all you like, the league table doesn't lie.
Point at individual games all you like, the league table doesn't lie.
bluejock
Boss coat aficionado
Please, we've drawn more games than the artist of roy of the rovers.
bluejock
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Azzurri
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This was what I was trying to say.
tim cahill
Player Valuation: £50m
This season isn't over yet though. I'd prefer to look at the league table when it is, because at the moment they have a decent chance of finishing above us.
This year, 35 games. We've won 15, drawn 14, lost 6. They've won 14, drawn 12, lost 9.
Last year, 38 games. We won 15, drew 11, lost 12. They won 14, drew 10, lost 14.
2010-11, 38 games. We won 13, drew 15, lost 10. They won 17, drew 7, lost 14.
2009-10, 38 games. We won 16, drew 13, lost 9. They won 18, drew 9, lost 11.
So since they sold alonso we've won 59, drawn 53 and lost 37. 230 points in 149 games.
They've won 63, drawn 38 and lost 48. 227 points in 149 games.
Comparing these current two teams purely on league form, we're pretty clearly the better one.
Go back earlier and it's less pretty.
2008-09, 38 games. We won 17, drew 12, lost 9. They won 25, drew 11, lost 2.
2007-08, 38 games. We won 19, drew 8, lost 11. They won 21, drew 13, lost 4.
2006-07, 38 games. We won 15, drew 13, lost 10. They won 20, drew 8, lost 10.
2005-06, 38 games. We won 14, drew 8, lost 16. They won 25, drew 7, lost 6.
2004-05, 38 games. We won 18, drew 7, lost 13. They won 17, drew 7, lost 14.
So since we sold rooney we've won 142, drawn 101 and lost 96. 527 points from 339 games.
They won 171, drew 84 and lost 84. 597 points from 339 games.
Last year, 38 games. We won 15, drew 11, lost 12. They won 14, drew 10, lost 14.
2010-11, 38 games. We won 13, drew 15, lost 10. They won 17, drew 7, lost 14.
2009-10, 38 games. We won 16, drew 13, lost 9. They won 18, drew 9, lost 11.
So since they sold alonso we've won 59, drawn 53 and lost 37. 230 points in 149 games.
They've won 63, drawn 38 and lost 48. 227 points in 149 games.
Comparing these current two teams purely on league form, we're pretty clearly the better one.
Go back earlier and it's less pretty.
2008-09, 38 games. We won 17, drew 12, lost 9. They won 25, drew 11, lost 2.
2007-08, 38 games. We won 19, drew 8, lost 11. They won 21, drew 13, lost 4.
2006-07, 38 games. We won 15, drew 13, lost 10. They won 20, drew 8, lost 10.
2005-06, 38 games. We won 14, drew 8, lost 16. They won 25, drew 7, lost 6.
2004-05, 38 games. We won 18, drew 7, lost 13. They won 17, drew 7, lost 14.
So since we sold rooney we've won 142, drawn 101 and lost 96. 527 points from 339 games.
They won 171, drew 84 and lost 84. 597 points from 339 games.
Five point gap with 9 to play for?
Never mind these trivial points, are we winning the 'hit the woodwork' table? because they won it last year but I'm sure we were well ahead earlier in the season.
tim cahill
Player Valuation: £50m
I said months ago I thought we'd need a bigger gap than this going into the final 3 games. If they were to beat us next week then they'd be favourites IMO. I wouldn't fancy us if we had to get the win at Chelsea on the final day to be certain of finishing above Liverpool.
Would happily take a draw from this game, because it would almost guarantee them finishing below us. Cannot see us losing to West Ham at home.
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