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[Death]

War so close to home. It feels almost surreal. Koff Putin you absolute scum.

Aahhh go on Putin America already has military basis in Poland with missiles pointed towards Russia. Let them do it in Ukraine Aswell. Go ooonnnn.

 

[Tipp blue]

I agree. There will be a lot of people rubbing their hands at the thought of money to be made out of a nice little war.

There only needs to be 1 person rubbing their hands together at the thought of money being made out of a nice little war.

 

[bluelife]

All of this just goes to show... there is no way out for the human race... we will never evolve past this rubbish.

 

[efcforever]

If only all nations had that foreign policy...this thread wouldn’t need to be here.

Sadly the opposite appears to be true. Countries have had to obtain weapons of mass destruction in order to deter other nations from attacking them.

I agree with the principal of your point though. It is incredibly sad that a solution can't be reached here with death and violence.

 

[devogue]

Depressing how history repeats itself

 

[larrygobfiend]

Can anyone see Russia’s point of view? Last thing they’d want is for a neighbouring country to become part of NATO?

 

[Kev The Rat]

Can anyone see Russia’s point of view? Last thing they’d want is for a neighbouring country to become part of NATO?

no one on this thread mate.

they'd rather see nuclear war.

 

[daza_1973]

All of this just goes to show... there is no way out for the human race... we will never evolve past this rubbish.

 

[devogue]

Can anyone see Russia’s point of view? Last thing they’d want is for a neighbouring country to become part of NATO?

I do see their POV but Ukraine didn't want to be part of NATO until Russia invaded them in 2014 lol

 

[Tin-Tin]

What awful news to wake up to

 

[Brennan]

Can anyone see Russia’s point of view? Last thing they’d want is for a neighbouring country to become part of NATO?

So that justifies invading them ?

The irony in that of course being that by definition they would then have multiple NATO countries neighbouring them.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Can anyone see Russia’s point of view? Last thing they’d want is for a neighbouring country to become part of NATO?

There are already a few of them, have NATO forces been building up in them ready to start a land invasion? By doing this Putin is actually inviting more troops around his country now just in case he wants to land grab more.

NATO is just a prestige thing with the securities that another country wouldn't just start a war with you. Putin is doing this for his own interests the NATO thing is just an excuse, he wants his own puppet regime in Ukraine that kneels before its masters.

 

[PhilM]

Can anyone see Russia’s point of view? Last thing they’d want is for a neighbouring country to become part of NATO?

Are you referring to Russia as a whole or Putin and his authoritarian regime? To an extent, I can understand why Russia may be concerned about NATO.

However, NATO is not an offensive collective or even a close-knit bloc politically; Ukraine didn't want to be part of NATO until Russia started a proxy war.

Talking about genocide and anti-Nazification is nothing to do with the threat of NATO. Putin and Co's comments are a guise for their real intentions.

Even if they weren't, does it justify starting a war on a sovereign state because of their democratic decision to want to join an alliance for self-defence?

NATO would never want to invade Russia - never. There isn't the political or social will to do so; rather, it's about stopping a dictator and his geo-political ambitions.

Some people on here may appreciate the view of Russia for reasons that are becoming more and more obvious.

 

[Tipp blue]

Can anyone see Russia’s point of view? Last thing they’d want is for a neighbouring country to become part of NATO?

There's already 5 Countries in NATO that border Russia.. Germany, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Turkey.

 

[tsubaki]

Can anyone see Russia’s point of view? Last thing they’d want is for a neighbouring country to become part of NATO?

That isn’t Russia’s point of view, really.

Ukraine, the Baltics and (nearly) Belorussia didn’t leave Russian orbit because they wanted to join NATO; they left because people looked further west in Europe and saw the rest of what was once the Eastern Bloc states slowly improving the standard of living at a greater rate than their own.

Wanting that removed / almost removed (in Belarus) the corrupt pro-Moscow regimes. In time, the same thing would have happened to Russia.