Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
Well said.. concise and accurate response.?
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tsubaki
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TBF by that stage of the war he was much better than he had been before the war, or would be after 1945.
By that time he had mostly binned off the likes of Voroshilov and Kulik (though of course they didn’t get a bullet in the head (well Kulik did but that was much later), put in camps or have their families rounded up unlike so many less guilty, more competent men and women), and replaced them with people who ranged from adequate to some of the greatest generals of the last century.
No I didn't see it happenning, not going to lie. Definitely not so soon any way. I still can't work out the rationale for wanting go beyond the previously controlled areas. But that's probably where I'm making the mistake - logic and rationale don't matter.
It was more about the Nazi side but it was interesting to see how dictators try to surround themselves with people who will never disagree rather than the best people.
Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
He's after the massive gas reserves in Western Ukraine an estimated 1% of the world's total gas reserves.. this is what it's about nothing else.
tsubaki
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TBF I don’t think they do, and it’s a smart move for them.
Allow Russia to exist as an isolated, friendless state that is almost entirely dependent on them and they are quids in; all their energy needs are met and if they ever think Siberia would be a nice thing to have no one in the rest of the world will lift a finger.
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Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
That would be interesting.
Kev The Rat
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no, there is a genuine blood and soil issue at hand here as well.
NilSatisOptimum
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Part of it in the short term... Although food security is also in there and part of the long term aims. Wheat, barley and rye that much of Europe relies on, Ukraine It’s also a big producer of corn.
This will now become apparent and be news in the coming days if Ukraine falls to Putin's Russia.
tsubaki
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Yes, but for a period of time Stalin did actually surround himself with (at least for the conduct of the war) the best people. Hitler didn’t until right at the end, and even then he didn’t listen to him (this was when Guderian was Chief of the General Staff).
Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
I'm not so sure.. it's always been about gas.
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NathDogg
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The maniac wants to rebuild the Soviet Union, it won't end with the Ukraine if we stand by and do nothing now, and sanctions don't work. He wants a new cold war, with fingers hovering over the big red nuke buttons.
It's not just about money, he's already stupidly wealthy, but if he and his cronies get even wealthier, then all the better for them.
It's not just about money, he's already stupidly wealthy, but if he and his cronies get even wealthier, then all the better for them.
I agree with this, but that only came about due to Molotov's influence earlier in the war. When Barbarossa started, he'd already purged most the Red Army.
He then disappeared off to his dacha and let the situation spiral. If it wasn't for Zhukov, Molotov et al. coupled with Hitler's own madness, they'd have lost.
@ToffeeTim wait until next week's episode (I haven't seen it). After von Stauffenberg, Hitler ignored pretty much all major advice apart from the cowards around him.
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