I said this a while ago. Russia does have a LOT of natural resources that China needs though...
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I agree but it still relies on the west far more.
tsubaki
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I disagree - economically there might be a big cost, but they could deal with it. I don’t really see a benefit (except in the most apocalyptic scenarios) for them to throw everything in with Putin either, mind.
It certainly makes more sense for them to sit on the fence / gently back Russia rather than join in the condemnation, the sanctions, watch Putin go under and then find themselves with the US after them next. A lot of the rest of the world isn’t joining in either, so why should they?
It’s possible China is biding their time to reclaim part of the resource-rich part of Siberia.
Given the fraught history of Sino-Russian relations, it wouldn’t surprise me
Yeh, China could sit back, watch all this unfold and then have the best of both worlds, respect from the west and a weakened desperate Russia.
Predictorchamp
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I agree that they will manoeuvre from behind the scenes and wait until they are begged to get more overtly involved but demand rewards for that intervention.
China has major influence with The Koreans north and south who are both currently firing missiles. They have influence with the Iranians who have oil supply leverage and missiles aimed at Israel.
China wants Taiwan and also Islands that are Vietnamese in the South China Sea and parts of the resource rich Siberian area that borders China. Also they hold a huge amount of USA / Western debt. They have major investments in Africa. China wants tariff free access to US and Euro markets.
The Chinese government is not subject to its electorate when making strategic decisions.
The economic world order is significantly changing. Let’s hope it is a peaceful transition but one wrong move or mistake and consequences could be catastrophic no wonder all tech billionaires are buying bunkers in New Xealand
Tennessee Blue Mike
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Boy that would muck up Putin's legacy if it did happen. What surprised me is the troop withdrawal on the Sino/Russian border needed for the conflict in Ukraine leaving them thread bare.
What if China did move that way and NATO the other.
If the Chinese play their cards right, they may be able to take it without a single shot being fired.
I imagine Russia’s weakness is being monitored in Georgia, Chechnya, and Dagestan.
That is one thing I have always had in the back of my mind since this started - what is China's hand. Whether it is a deal they have made with Russia, or an opportunity they have goaded Russia into - China definitely have a hand to play. And knowing China, it is a hand we may not see for several years, but there is a hand
China is not just trying to claim islands in the south china sea - they are actually creating islands and putting military bases on them.
They have also just today signed an agreement with the Solomon Islands which will see them have a military presence there too.
When you consider all the infastructure they are building worldwide with their belt and road initiative, it won't be too long before they overtake the US as the dominant force in world politics
It will not end well
I don't think and didn't say China will get embroiled in this mess.
I understand your view and maybe they will play their hand in later years. I just think it will be more about a bigger foothold in global markets as opposed to invading nations.
Seen that this morning but didn’t notice the second burning ship sailing away behind the ship in the foreground.
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