Glasshalffull
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Think 905% might be a slightly high estimate, really.
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Because Russia is a member of the UN Security Council and can veto any actions .
efcfanwirral
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If we sanction China in the same way as Russia we really are crossing the line between morals and absolutely destroying ourselves.
Everyone will say its the right thing of course
For China and Russia forcing us to sanction China would be a great way to bring the West down...
Spadge Vernacular
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Russian Forces Kill Civilians, Loot for Supplies in Occupied Ukraine, Residents Say
Locals described hungry and undisciplined Russian troops shooting civilians, breaking into supermarkets and shops, and raiding homes in search of food and valuables as their own supply lines have failed.
www.wsj.com
Diogenes the Cynic
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Russian Forces Kill Civilians, Loot for Supplies in Occupied Ukraine, Residents Say
Locals described hungry and undisciplined Russian troops shooting civilians, breaking into supermarkets and shops, and raiding homes in search of food and valuables as their own supply lines have failed.
They'll be raping the women next, mark my words.
Cool_Blue
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So just ignore what Russia think and go in I say.
Yarrgh
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This war needs to stop. Now.Russian Forces Kill Civilians, Loot for Supplies in Occupied Ukraine, Residents Say
Locals described hungry and undisciplined Russian troops shooting civilians, breaking into supermarkets and shops, and raiding homes in search of food and valuables as their own supply lines have failed.
The longer it goes on, the more desperate the soldiers will become and the more likely they will commit war crimes. I worry that they will go 'all in' once they know losing means facing criminal charges. And by 'all in' I mean callous destruction of evidence including witnesses.
Yarrgh
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Like 361% of all statistics, that number might well be made up.
Spadge Vernacular
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It probably won't happen but if you consider the implications of the west allowing itself to become reliant on Russian commodities and Chinese manufacture and commodities then you might see a large strategic gaff that we might want to unpick - even if there was some pain in doing so.
Such a move if made could be viewed as a potential vehicle to withdraw and reclaim some of the the economic power that we have handed over.
I think China will see this which is reflected in both Russia and China working to dedollarise themselves in a move that in one area would take away the threat of sanctions whilst maintaining our reliance upon them.
Russia and China: Partners in dedollarization
Russia has virtually stopped receiving Dollars for its exports to China. Does the US have reason to be concerned?
www.atlanticcouncil.org
From a wider BRIC perspective
Besides China, Putin Has Another Potential De-dollarization Partner in Asia | Council on Foreign Relations
Russia’s de-dollarization efforts mean that China and India can help Russia skirt sanctions by jointly building an alternative global financial system, but they risk facing severe consequences on their own financial entities.
www.cfr.org
I do feel though that China will be as shocked as Russia by the way that not only the the wests governments have gone gung ho in its sanctioning of Russia but more so at the reaction of big business withdrawing too. It would appear sensible for them not to expose themselves to this level of economic threat. A snip from a recent Bloomerg interview with China's Foreign Minister pointing to this.
China Says It Wants to Avoid U.S. Sanctions Over Russia’s War
China wants to avoid being impacted by U.S. sanctions over Russia’s war, Foreign Minister Wang Yi said, in one of Beijing’s most explicit statements yet on American penalties that are contributing to a historic market selloff.
www.bloomberg.com
Crazy times and seems crazy that humans seem to have a superpower in consistently cocking things up.
Spadge Vernacular
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I saw a report recently discussing the Russian strategy of not only destroying Ukraine's infrastructure but also its agriculture sector too. Horrific as this is there is some sense in Putin's warped goal of achieving this. It is all very sad.
Spadge Vernacular
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It reminds me of the sage saying that there are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Looks like NATO have an "extraordinary" meeting lined up for tomorrow. Expect Finland and Sweden to apply for membership
Globalisation has been an incredible force for good. I'm not sure we should be looking to unwind that based on the actions of an utter lunatic who is happy to destroy his country for the sake of pride.It probably won't happen but if you consider the implications of the west allowing itself to become reliant on Russian commodities and Chinese manufacture and commodities then you might see a large strategic gaff that we might want to unpick - even if there was some pain in doing so.
Such a move if made could be viewed as a potential vehicle to withdraw and reclaim some of the the economic power that we have handed over.
I think China will see this which is reflected in both Russia and China working to dedollarise themselves in a move that in one area would take away the threat of sanctions whilst maintaining our reliance upon them.
Russia and China: Partners in dedollarization
Russia has virtually stopped receiving Dollars for its exports to China. Does the US have reason to be concerned?
From a wider BRIC perspective
Besides China, Putin Has Another Potential De-dollarization Partner in Asia | Council on Foreign Relations
Russia’s de-dollarization efforts mean that China and India can help Russia skirt sanctions by jointly building an alternative global financial system, but they risk facing severe consequences on their own financial entities.
I do feel though that China will be as shocked as Russia by the way that not only the the wests governments have gone gung ho in its sanctioning of Russia but more so at the reaction of big business withdrawing too. It would appear sensible for them not to expose themselves to this level of economic threat. A snip from a recent Bloomerg interview with China's Foreign Minister pointing to this.
China Says It Wants to Avoid U.S. Sanctions Over Russia’s War
China wants to avoid being impacted by U.S. sanctions over Russia’s war, Foreign Minister Wang Yi said, in one of Beijing’s most explicit statements yet on American penalties that are contributing to a historic market selloff.
Crazy times and seems crazy that humans seem to have a superpower in consistently cocking things up.
EverTheOptimist
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sN were utterly useless
UN stood by under Dutch or Belgian troops in Srebenica and watched war criminal Ratko Mladic march 8000 muslim Bosnian males of fighting age of 16 and above and execute them within ear shot of the UN troops in a forest, they heard every bullet and did nothing.
Mladic and the UN commander before it happened were filmed chatting and Mladic said they'd be treated right, the UN Commander got truly duped.
Mladic finally saw justice decades later for that atrocity at the Hague.
The UN also stopped the Muslim Bosnians being armed by Iran, Pakistan, the Arab League of 24 countries and Indonesia, while the Serbs were armed by Greece Russia and the Croats armed by Italy.
UN were utterly useless in Bosnia.
UN stood by under Dutch or Belgian troops in Srebenica and watched war criminal Ratko Mladic march 8000 muslim Bosnian males of fighting age of 16 and above and execute them within ear shot of the UN troops in a forest, they heard every bullet and did nothing.
Mladic and the UN commander before it happened were filmed chatting and Mladic said they'd be treated right, the UN Commander got truly duped.
Mladic finally saw justice decades later for that atrocity at the Hague.
The UN also stopped the Muslim Bosnians being armed by Iran, Pakistan, the Arab League of 24 countries and Indonesia, while the Serbs were armed by Greece Russia and the Croats armed by Italy.
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Spadge Vernacular
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I agree, but sadly when there are autocratic rulers acting like nutters and trying to move to a position in which they are untouchable, it is a worry and as economic levers are all we have had outside of war or submission.
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