Current Affairs Ukraine

[PhilM]

The UK is complicit in money laundering Russia dirty money the rest of world knows it...

Oh indeed. Even the US a few weeks ago were worried how sanctions would stand up due to our ties with the Russian financial sector - well laundering.

Which again leads to the point of being united. If we all stand together, we could impose sanctions on the Russian state and leaders that would cripple it.

The concern is that someone or a group will concede and back down, which may well be us.

 

[Jebus_lives]

He has factored sanction and the only logical rationale for conflict is that Putin has decided that the West is weak and any sanctions were worth paying.

We are still far dependent on his hydrocarbons. He knows that will divide all.

Another reason why we need to accelerate our move to green energy but our greed will get in the way...

Any sanctions we make will be re-payed by a significant increase in the cost of gas.

 

[peteblue]

Putin following the script….

 

[tsubaki]

Don't we all want peace? Haven't our own government been pushing peace/ceasefire for weeks now?

We have, albeit very few people other than the traitors are calling for us to do nothing “to prevent escalation”.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Again, this is a completely different affair. While they have air capability to attack, their blue-water navy is far from ready to move the number of troops required.

The last time I looked, they were looking at 2030+ to be ready in terms of naval capability as they'd need to move a lot of troops - think Sea Lion etc.

Depends how you define attack. With Estonia especially Putin already has and will continue to attempt to destabilise the Estonian government. His aim is to stoke up Russian nationalist feelings within the ethnic Russian speaking population, force change at government level - install a friendly puppet and then move to exit Estonia from NATO and welcome back the Russian army!

Job doneski

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Depends how you define attack. With Estonia especially Putin already has and will continue to attempt to destabilise the Estonian government. His aim is to stoke up Russian nationalist feelings within the ethnic Russian speaking population, force change at government level - install a friendly puppet and then move to exit Estonia from NATO and welcome back the Russian army!

Job doneski

He has a job though, as Kaja Kallas is most certainly not that way inclined (and is very nice). Ilves was also very much a product of the west (and also very nice).

 

[neil999]

Not much edgy grifting on twitter, suspect people trying ting to work out what their position should be for best monetary gain.....

 

[tsubaki]

Nord Stream 2 is off

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[Kev The Rat]

Nord Stream 2 is off

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Interesting. Putin will have acknowledged this as a possibility, yet still pressed ahead. That being the case, I think he will go further - otherwise why risk the pipeline?

The Baltics at a minimum have to be in contention now.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

Love me some armchair generalling.

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

The Baltics at a minimum have to be in contention now.

no they're not.
The pipeline's already built. They'll ratify it in 2025, when everything's cooled off and Putin & Scholz are having tea in Kiev.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

no they're not.
The pipeline's already built. They'll ratify it in 2025, when everything's cooled off and Putin & Scholz are having tea in Kiev.

The Estonian minister of defence has said that he fears they will be next. I'm sure the 1,100 Nato troops in the country will keep the Red Army at bay though.

 

[Kev The Rat]

The Estonian minister of defence has said that he fears they will be next. I'm sure the 1,100 Nato troops in the country will keep the Red Army at bay though.

dont forget the 'barrage of sanctions' - Putin is terified, I'm sure.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Any sanctions we make will be re-payed by a significant increase in the cost of gas.

Which of course benefits Russia being a large gas and oil provider I do like capitalism when it finds itself a pig in a poke!

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Nord Stream 2 is off

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Takes socialism!