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Charro said:
Havent they bombed a terrorist organisation?

Is it in any way similar to what Russia is doing in Ukraine?
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When America were withdrawing from Afghanistan last year they drone attacked a convoy in retaliation for the suicide bombing at the airport.

It killed innocent people.

I know it's nothing to do with this thread though.
 
Ghost Rider said:
When America were withdrawing from Afghanistan last year they drone attacked a convoy in retaliation for the suicide bombing at the airport.

It killed innocent people.

I know it's nothing to do with this thread though.
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Rider. All through that war and the Iraq one on a weekly basis they bombed places with a 90% civilian death rate. For 20 years. Hundreds of thoasands of civilians.

Them Boys in Somalia could only dream of it.
 
Glasshalffull said:
Well, I have to start off by admitting that I'm no Russia expert, so hands-up to that failing on my part. I also completely accept that Putin is some sort of a megalomaniac basket case, but I do genuinely think that Russians generally have a feeling that western Europe is a threat. This view was fuelled by the German invasion of WW2, when Russia probably suffered more casualties than all other countries put together, and maybe dating right back to Napoleon's march on Moscow. NATO to them isn't the defensive, weakish, set-up we all know it to be, but an alliance of many countries, never friends to Russia, and run by the USA, Russia's arch enemy. After WW2, Russia created a buffer of Balkan and other countries between itself and the threat of the West, and this has been worn away over time, and in many cases become part of the NATO 'threat'. Dunno if Putin is exploiting this feeling among average Russian folk, or is demented enough to believe it, but that's where I think the present problem originates, anyway.
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I understand that this argument gets put forward by Putin. What I don't understand is why anyone over the age of twelve, with access to a map and a basic grasp of logic, would ever be convinced by it. It's obviously and fundamentally false.
 
Mrk said:
Please read the post I was replying to again - it said "already flying sorties over Ukraine" - a sortie implies a military operation.

I've no doubt whatsoever that our special forces are very very much involved - that's very different.
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Sorry bud, I didn't read back far enough in the conversation and misunderstood.

As it happens, I'd be completely unsurprised if western SF teams are on the ground providing spotting / forward air control functions for drone strikes. I agree they won't have put crewed air assets in yet.
 
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Non Nazi, strong, stable Germany is always a treat. DANKE SCHÖN

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As always, the shareholders at Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics & co. are the real winners here :rolleyes:



Wizard said:
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Must be like pigs in muck that Anonymous group. Not often you get a free reign to hack into a major government’s infrastructure with little chance of repercussions in your home country.
 
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