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[davids]

I'd say the propaganda on our side in recent months, especially around conscription, indicates otherwise. They just need people to believe its a last resort

Let's all hope it is a last resort,so easy for NATO involvement even if it's only in a supportive role could easily go wrong very quickly

 

[Martin Alvito]

I just don’t see any way out for Ukraine beyond a negotiated settlement. NATO isn’t going to get directly involved and I don’t think they can win on their own even with support.

In general, that is how wars end. Capitulation by one side and unconditional surrender, as happened at the end of the US Civil War and World War II, is rare.

Unfortunately, they're also big in pop culture, so people think that's how it works all the time.

We could probably get the Ukraine war to a complete Russian withdrawal, but it would cost more than the West wants to spend, so this will most likely end at a conference table.

 

[efcfanwirral]

Let's all hope it is a last resort,so easy for NATO involvement even if it's only in a supportive role could easily go wrong very quickly

agreed, I just worry that NATO smell blood now, and that the aim will go beyond just getting Russia out of Ukraine and tip over into regime change in Russia. They won't get another opportunity like this for a long time to advance their aims

 

[stipe]

Looks like some kind of Russian offensive has started in Kharkiv, Ukrainians sending reserves.
Now question is, is this real thing (that everyone was talking about last few weeks), or simply a feint attack to stretch Ukrainian reserves.

Apparently Russian Northern army group got around 50 000 troops, certainly not enough for taking city of almost 2 million.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Looks like some kind of Russian offensive has started in Kharkiv, Ukrainians sending reserves.
Now question is, is this real thing (that everyone was talking about last few weeks), or simply a feint attack to stretch Ukrainian reserves.

Apparently Russian Northern army group got around 50 000 troops, certainly not enough for taking city of almost 2 million.

I think the northern offensive has been planned for months. Russia doesn’t quite have the muscle to take Kharkiv however it will draw Ukrainian strength and reserves from the East and South to counter the assault and this will allow Putin to gain more ground there.

Worrying times for Ukraine

 

[Yarrgh]

I think the northern offensive has been planned for months. Russia doesn’t quite have the muscle to take Kharkiv however it will draw Ukrainian strength and reserves from the East and South to counter the assault and this will allow Putin to gain more ground there.

Worrying times for Ukraine

I think that's it in a nutshell. From what I have been following online (so it could be utter codswallop) there could be a drop back along some areas of the main defensive lines to already (or very soon to be) established new lines which would probably lead to a deadlock position for quite a long time.

Or it could just be the buffer zone against Ukrainian strikes especially with longer ranges that the Russians have said they will need to create.

 

[davids]

Ukraine’s defenders anxiously dig in for a looming Russian assault

The West’s delays on weapons help Vladimir Putin exploit superior numbers

www.economist.com

 

[davids]

Ozzy Go Pro footage of the Ukrainian Legion.

 

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[stipe]

I think the northern offensive has been planned for months. Russia doesn’t quite have the muscle to take Kharkiv however it will draw Ukrainian strength and reserves from the East and South to counter the assault and this will allow Putin to gain more ground there.

Worrying times for Ukraine

Yeah, there are still a lot fog of war of what is actually happening in the north, but this is probably diversionary attack attempting to spread Ukrainian forces thin, basically they attacking across broad front forcing Ukrainians to send reserves from north to south.

Real thing that everyone expecting probably gonna happen in Donbass region

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Yeah, there are still a lot fog of war of what is actually happening in the north, but this is probably diversionary attack attempting to spread Ukrainian forces thin, basically they attacking across broad front forcing Ukrainians to send reserves from north to south.

Real thing that everyone expecting probably gonna happen in Donbass region

As @Yarrgh alluded to earlier, it’s probably a Russian attempt to carve a deep buffer zone into Ukrainian territory in order to limit the Uke artillery attacks and troop incursions into Russian border towns.

But as you mentioned - it will draw Uke troops and resources away from the East where the real threat is.

 

[Tipp blue]

You absolutely sound like a Russian sympathier to me.

It's funny that the Russian sympathizers all point to Ukranian losses but never mention the far more losses Russia have taken both in men and equipment.

 

[Aberblue]

It's funny that the Russian sympathizers all point to Ukranian losses but never mention the far more losses Russia have taken both in men and equipment.

One difference is that the Ukranian leadership are concerned about their losses, while Russia's leadership is pretty much indifferent about Russian lives lost or men maimed as long as they achieve their objectives. This is as true of Putin as it was under Stalin and the Czars.

 

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Any negotiation formats with Russia impossible – Podoliak on changes in Russian leadership​

Any negotiation formats with Russia impossible – Podoliak on changes in Russian leadership

Mykhailo Podoliak, adviser to the President's of Ukraine, believes that the latest reshuffles in the Russian leadership indicate the country's final transition to military "communism" (total militarization of the economy and restructuring of army supply systems) to provide resources for the...

en.interfax.com.ua