Current Affairs Ukraine

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They mobilized a million earlier apparently and what good did it do?
The Ukranian mobilised troops managed “somehow” to inflict serious military defeats on one the supposed worlds great military powers and kick their sorry arses out of the Kharkiv, Sumy, Zhotomyr and Kherson oblasts last November.

Now the same mobilised Ukranians have the Russian army cowering in trenches behind minefields.

Nah I think they’re doing okay
 
I said they need men on the ground that they do not possess in sufficient numbers

Your response: ‘but we’re providing 30k’ as if that altered the equation
You said Ukraine had no more men left - I told you that they’re 30K alone in training in the U.K. so that refuted your statement. I then asked you for the source of your info and you went off on one like a lil bish.

Fact is your original statement was false and I called you out on it. So stop the whataboutery and deflection and just admit you were wrong.
 
You said Ukraine had no more men left - I told you that they’re 30K alone in training in the U.K. so that refuted your statement. I then asked you for the source of your info and you went off on one like a lil bish.

Fact is your original statement was false and I called you out on it. So stop the whataboutery and deflection and just admit you were wrong.
Where did I say they had no men left? I said the men they need on the ground don’t exist, not that that they had no men.

I stand by that
 
It happens, it such a small episode in the scheme of what is actually happening though
I disagree. It shows a clear line of consistent bogus denials and claims by the Ukrainian government with includes: the Ukrainian missile that landed in Poland that killed two people and denied; the denial about the Nord Stream pipeline blown up by Ukrainian special forces; the missile attack on Kostiantynivka by Ukraine not Russia as claimed; and now the claim about Sokolov's death.

Remember: the first casualty of war is the truth. That applies to both sides.
 
For anyone who missed Newsnight's Mark Urban's first of 3 reports from the front line last night here it is (episodes 2 and 3 over the next two nights).

It shows how primitive a lot of the weaponry the Ukrainians are having to work with...something that goes under the radar of all the talk about F-16 and ATACMS.

 
For anyone who missed Newsnight's Mark Urban's first of 3 reports from the front line last night here it is (episodes 2 and 3 over the next two nights).

It shows how primitive a lot of the weaponry the Ukrainians are having to work with...something that goes under the radar of all the talk about F-16 and ATACMS.


but dont worry, they've got 30k squaddie trained cannon fodder still be to thrown into the fray apparently.
 
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