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[Kev The Rat]

It absolutely isn’t - Putin is less corrupt than Biden (or many other US political figures) if you use the US metric, as he isn’t whoring himself out for donors.

However he is more corrupt than Biden using the autocratic measure, as he has overwhelming control over the resources of the Russian state and business sphere.

It’s like comparing a bent cop and a Mafia don - both are corrupt, but in different ways.

Sorry I meant the overall effect/outcome is similar

That’s a good post actually - and accurate

 

[bcblue1878]

I am clearly saying the war will continue for the next decade

Russia has given itself no off ramp

What are you saying ?

those are my views, the Russians have entrenched themselves in a mess. I’ve been consistent in that line throughout.

Fixed that for you, or rather - what any right thinking person would have posted!

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

 

[WA Toffee]

No more corrupt than Biden

And I don’t view Biden as particularly corrupt

Excuse me, do you remember a few posts back when you claimed you never do whataboutery?

 

[Kev The Rat]

Excuse me, do you remember a few posts back when you claimed you never do whataboutery?

Biden isnt corrupt IMO.

How can I keep repeating myself for you not to understand what is being said.

Whataboutery usually means 'they are doing bad things as well' I dont think Biden is particularly, it is all par for the course. Its what happens at that level.

 

[davek]

Yes. If highlighting the Ukranian frailties is done with the intent of undermining a leadership under continual attack of its people and territory then there must be an expectation that leadership would try any avenue available to strengthen its position.

If cluelessness has repelled a hugely superior force, turned them into a source of ridicule and now attacks them your assessment is inherently flawed.

Ha Ha. Undermining the leadership of Ukraine...do you think that clown reads this thread

FFS, too much.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Ha Ha. Undermining the leadership of Ukraine...do you think that clown reads this thread

FFS, too much.

You know and everyone can see what you are doing.

You understand that people are genuinely and rightly upset by Russias actions and so you're doing your best to find ways to wind people up.

As said earlier, it might be banter when its about football but it is unnacaptable when its about rape, murder and kidnapping of kids and women just trying to go about their lives.

It is disgusting behaviour.

 

[PKwalnuts]

...and thats where your point of view, whole stance falls flat. You can call out many things, but if you can't see that to be true, then any credibility you try to show goes out of the window.

No

 

[davek]

Sorry I meant the overall effect/outcome is similar

That’s a good post actually - and accurate

@tsubaki is an excellent poster.

 

[larrygobfiend]

No matter how hard these quilts try to spin it, this whole tragedy has damaged Russia and Putin beyond repair. They’re a joke. They’ve lost their credibility as a military threat. They have their nukes, but there’s no chance they’d launch them.

 

[dublinbluenose]

Russian telegram channels are claiming on one hand the black sea fleet HQ in Sevastopol was hit with ATACMS and on the other that the Royal Navy HQ should be hit as it was Storm Shadows.

Also caling for any US Poseiden circling in the black sea should be shot down as they are directing fire.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

If Putin cared about Russians he would not be sending them into this situation.

Mariupol Hospitals ‘So Full of Wounded Russian Soldiers, They’ve Stopped Accepting Civilians’

Residents of Mariupol who attend hospitals are increasingly told there is no room, given painkillers, turned away and then sent home to die “in a calm atmosphere,” according to a report.

www.kyivpost.com

 

[Tipp blue]

No matter how hard these quilts try to spin it, this whole tragedy has damaged Russia and Putin beyond repair. They’re a joke. They’ve lost their credibility as a military threat. They have their nukes, but there’s no chance they’d launch them.

Yup.. there's at least 2 decades of work ahead of them to get military equipment back to where it was before the invasion. Quite a bit longer if sanctions are kept in place after the war.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

@tsubaki is an excellent poster.

aHEM

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Russian telegram channels are claiming on one hand the black sea fleet HQ in Sevastopol was hit with ATACMS and on the other that the Royal Navy HQ should be hit as it was Storm Shadows.

Also caling for any US Poseiden circling in the black sea should be shot down as they are directing fire.

SCARY TIMES -ALL THANKS TO THAT TIT