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[Toast]

What’s most of the terrain like in Ukraine? It’s a massive amount of land but outside the cities is it mainly fields, mountains or what?

No idea, but their Maccies all seem to still be open..

 

[daza_1973]

What’s most of the terrain like in Ukraine? It’s a massive amount of land but outside the cities is it mainly fields, mountains or what?

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/ukraine-3d-map-77a62b26e37246f5b5f10228b6e9ef3e

 

[bullybeef]

If it wasn’t so tragic you’d have to laugh.

Whilst Putins forces are rampaging thru Ukraine with certain victory not too far away, senile ‘smirking’ Joe and Blundering Boris are still talking about sanctions against Putin and his supporters… Putin is laughing in their faces.

The west have done nothing to stop Putin.

Meanwhile the Russkies are still allowed to compete in the Winter Olympics and Paralympics… cheating whilst they do so too.

Russia is the worlds super power! They do what they want, when they want.

 

[PhilM]

@edge sorry, you're correct - Poland is now over the 2% mark.

Is that an actual realistic amount though or a symbolic movement? I think the nominal Nato presence in Estonia is about 1,500 personnel, for instance, which wouldn't be able to do a great deal. How is that being changed?

It's not symbolic. We've doubled our troops in the last week albeit it's still not huge. The crux of it however is they're NATO troops and from UK/US.

Any attack on those states and our troops is casus belli - e.g. war. @BlueToff he doesn't want a nuclear conflict.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Russian troops openly walking around Kiev now

 

[john jako]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/ukraine-3d-map-77a62b26e37246f5b5f10228b6e9ef3e

That’s a pretty cool app/site.

Thanks for that

 

[daza_1973]

That’s a pretty cool app/site.

Thanks for that

At least I know where to hide now if I ever get called up lol

 

[john jako]

At least I know where to hide now if I ever get called up lol

You will find me in these trees doing a final spot of dogging.

 

[bluebud]

Ukrainian news reporting that the Russian tanks that got into Obolon district sneaked in disguised as Ukrainian tanks, they have been destroyed.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Re Death's posts. I understand that there may be different opinions on different matters but don't you think any pro-Putin propaganda on here and promoting war crime actions should be punished from now on?

Last thing we need is Putin trolls infesting the forum. It is madness that we have Russia apologists.

 

[Death]

If it wasn’t so tragic you’d have to laugh.

Whilst Putins forces are rampaging thru Ukraine with certain victory not too far away, senile ‘smirking’ Joe and Blundering Boris are still talking about sanctions against Putin and his supporters… Putin is laughing in their faces.

The west have done nothing to stop Putin.

Meanwhile the Russkies are still allowed to compete in the Winter Olympics and Paralympics… cheating whilst they do so too.

Russia is the worlds super power! They do what they want, when they want.

God damn you Putin. You power hungry imperialst. Let them have Ukraine. Do you not have enough?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

@edge sorry, you're correct - Poland is now over the 2% mark.


It's not symbolic. We've doubled our troops in the last week albeit it's still not huge. The crux of it however is they're NATO troops and from UK/US.

Any attack on those states and our troops is casus belli - e.g. war. @BlueToff he doesn't want a nuclear conflict.

You'll forgive me for not being entirely optimistic about that. Heaven knows, our own prime minister has shown that international treaties are scarcely worth the paper they're written on. The same fears will still exist about tackling a single-minded, nuclear-armed foe in order to defend a country we don't have much to do with. I mean there were international treaties to defend Czech and Poland in the war but they didn't amount to much.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

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God damn you Putin. You power hungry imperialst. Let them have Ukraine. Do you not have enough?

Now lets ask why (outside of the middle east) those countries invite US troops to be stationed on their territory.

 

[BlueTX]

I disagree a lot with this - most people will accept negative change for the right reasons; the ones who refuse to accept that change are the creatures who’ve been enriching themselves with his money.

I admire your faith or trust in the inherent goodness of people. It's not that I don't share much of the same but, at this moment in time, given the evidence we have I'm not at all sure Americans (or Europeans) are all that willing to sacrifice much for Ukraine.

There are tens of millions in this country more arsed about a trucker protest in Canada (Trudeau = tyrant) than an invasion of Ukraine (Putin = genius). Nary a negative word about Putin at CPAC. There are political candidates praising Putin for his defending "Christian values". Hack political "reporters" moaning about gas prices to the POTUS in the midst of this atrocity.

We are a good people but, at this point in time and in far too many cases, an unserious lot that is infected with ADD and a sense of entitlement no "other" is going to infringe upon. FFS, all over right-wing radio yesterday was the claim Putin is doing a better job "protecting" his borders that we are ours.

 

[PhilM]

You'll forgive me for not being entirely optimistic about that. Heaven knows, our own prime minister has shown that international treaties are scarcely worth the paper they're written on. The same fears will still exist about tackling a single-minded, nuclear-armed foe in order to defend a country we don't have much to do with. I mean there were international treaties to defend Czech and Poland in the war but they didn't amount to much.

If they’re not defended, NATO ceases to exists. That’s too big a price in itself.