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[Mutzo Nutzo]

"the people who did this are vermin" would be fine, but that wasn't the distinction that was made

Do I get a detention sir?

 

[tsubaki]

Do I get a detention sir?

you should at least think about what you are posting before you post it

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

you should at least think about what you are posting before you post it

 

[TommyDavo]

I am not pro-Russian at all, I just wish people didn't fall down the rabbit holes of propaganda of whatever side and actually looked at the context and history of such things before spouting off with generalizations. It is so self-defeating and, frankly, dangerous.

Yet everything posted by yourself in this thread gives a pro-Russian approach. This war should not have started, but Russia decided it would.

 

[tsubaki]

hey, I am not the one who called an entire nation of human beings service personnel as vermin

 

[tsubaki]

Yet everything posted by yourself in this thread gives a pro-Russian approach. This war should not have started, but Russia decided it would.

I strongly suggest you read everything I've posted on this thread, then. Just because I don't sign up to the happy-clappy, by next week we'll be calling them untermenschen brigade doesn't mean I am pro-Russian.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

"the people who did this are vermin" would be fine, but that wasn't the distinction that was made

Do you feel that this unacceptable behaviour is an isolated incident - with a clear focus on Ukraine to avoid on whataboutism?

Justice for Ukraine: Prosecuting Russian War Crimes

Russian forces have committed over 65,000 registered war crimes throughout Putin’s full-scale war in Ukraine.

cepa.org

Explainer: How are war crimes in Ukraine being investigated?

More than 71,000 alleged war crimes have been reported in Ukraine since Russia invaded, but bringing them to trial is no simple task.

www.reuters.com

Russia has committed more than 65,000 war crimes in Ukraine, prosecutor general says

Andriy Kostin said he believed Kyiv was close to gaining U.S. support to establish a special tribunal to prosecute Russia's war crimes.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Tony101]

Do you feel that this unacceptable behaviour is an isolated incident - with a clear focus on Ukraine to avoid on whataboutism?

Justice for Ukraine: Prosecuting Russian War Crimes

Russian forces have committed over 65,000 registered war crimes throughout Putin’s full-scale war in Ukraine.

cepa.org

Explainer: How are war crimes in Ukraine being investigated?

More than 71,000 alleged war crimes have been reported in Ukraine since Russia invaded, but bringing them to trial is no simple task.

www.reuters.com

Russia has committed more than 65,000 war crimes in Ukraine, prosecutor general says

Andriy Kostin said he believed Kyiv was close to gaining U.S. support to establish a special tribunal to prosecute Russia's war crimes.

www.cnbc.com

Soldiers, civilians, children -- it makes no difference to Russia. We've seen it in Georgia, Chechnya, Syria. Different places, different generations of Russians, same story everytime

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Soldiers, civilians, children -- it makes no difference to Russia. We've seen it in Georgia, Chechnya, Syria. Different places, different generations of Russians, same story everytime

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After Bucha​

Here, everyone remembers everything and waits for the culprits to be punished. There are more than enough witnesses. Olga Musafirova reports from Bucha, town of martyrs and heroes​

After Bucha. Here, everyone remembers everything and waits for the culprits to be punished. There are more than enough witnesses. Olga Musafirova reports from Bucha, town of martyrs and heroes — Novaya Gazeta Europe

Shootings on Yablunska Street

novayagazeta.eu

 

[Zatara]

I saw the full unedited version and it was horrific.

Russian troops are vermin.

The fact is though that when you put troops, of any nation, into situations like this - where they are told to kill the enemy, where they see friends and comrades killed horrifically, when they are forced into situations where they themselves are in real and ongoing fear of death or serious injury - someone will do something very similar to this.

The Russians are not exceptional here; a UK serviceman (Alexander Blackman) did almost exactly the same thing and was convicted for it.

No, that is not what happened and there seems in your post an awful lot of an attempt to condone (or at least minimize) what Blackman actually did.

What these people did was reprehensible, deserves legal sanction and outright condemnation, but how we got from that to "Russian troops are vermin" is profoundly disturbing.

you said "Russian troops are vermin" - there was no distinction, no talk of battle rage, just that "they" are vermin

I am not pro-Russian at all, I just wish people didn't fall down the rabbit holes of propaganda of whatever side and actually looked at the context and history of such things before spouting off with generalizations. It is so self-defeating and, frankly, dangerous.

"the people who did this are vermin" would be fine, but that wasn't the distinction that was made

you should at least think about what you are posting before you post it

hey, I am not the one who called an entire nation of human beings service personnel as vermin

Russian troops are less than vermin.

 

[tsubaki]

Russian troops are less than vermin.

well @Mutzo Nutzo, here is the proof of wrongness

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

well @Mutzo Nutzo, here is the proof of wrongness

I sincerely apologise for corrupting the good people of GOT.

I think we’re all adults here and we can all develop our own opinions without the need for the weird form of self imposed forum governance that you attempt to impose.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Meanwhile back in Ukraine:

Russia has taken to cobbling together bits of old tanks and ships to make new tanks!

Their latest invention is this hideous contraption of an Mt-lb chassis with a naval gun turret welded on top

Is this yet another sign that they are running out of heavy equipment?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I sincerely apologise for corrupting the good people of GOT.

I think we’re all adults here and we can all develop our own opinions without the need for the weird form of self imposed forum governance that you attempt to impose.

It would be crass for anyone to try and defend a strategy that seeks to erase an entire people. That is what Russia is doing. Equally so try and ignore what is happening or fall back on whataboutery.

 

[tmgc]

Meanwhile back in Ukraine:

Russia has taken to cobbling together bits of old tanks and ships to make new tanks!

Their latest invention is this hideous contraption of an Mt-lb chassis with a naval gun turret welded on top

Is this yet another sign that they are running out of heavy equipment?

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They'll be asking Clouseau for a lend of The Silver Hornet soon.