Current Affairs Ukraine

[Bedfordblue]

Russian stand up. The hall seem to love his jokes

Same story they’ve been telling from the outset really, think the key bit is the ‘using the people of Ukraine’ they’ve maintained all along the west / NATO are using Ukraine as a proxy and their SMO is defensive measure to counter that threat.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Russian help and liberation

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

To punish Putin, the West must talk to the Global South as partners

There’s no reason to expect that sentiment in these countries will change just because we think there is an urgent need for it to do so.

www.politico.eu

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Russia’s Wagner chief issues stark warning on Ukraine war – latest news

Putin’s troops ‘fighting with shovels’ against Ukrainian forces with risk of retreat from Bakhmut

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Yarrgh]

To punish Putin, the West must talk to the Global South as partners

There’s no reason to expect that sentiment in these countries will change just because we think there is an urgent need for it to do so.

www.politico.eu

Should be doing that regardless.

 

[Yarrgh]

Russia’s Wagner chief issues stark warning on Ukraine war – latest news

Putin’s troops ‘fighting with shovels’ against Ukrainian forces with risk of retreat from Bakhmut

www.independent.co.uk

Mr Prigozhin should be advised to stay clear of open windows now.

Can see that Wagner being disbanded as part of any settlement and sacrificing them for some short term gains is probably palatable to Putin and those in charge in Russia. It also removes the sticky situation of letting the criminals within it come back to Russia as free men.

 

[PhilM]

Russia is bringing out the big guns for the current push with some T-62s, after an apparent modernisation programme. They thought it was obsolete by the mid 70s!

 

[peteblue]

Mr Prigozhin should be advised to stay clear of open windows now.

Can see that Wagner being disbanded as part of any settlement and sacrificing them for some short term gains is probably palatable to Putin and those in charge in Russia. It also removes the sticky situation of letting the criminals within it come back to Russia as free men.

Yep, he will definitely be the ‘fall guy’… the other one, Kadyrov is already suffering from suspected poisoning. Looks like some of the elite are covering their backs and eliminating the more vocal warmongers…..

 

[Yarrgh]

Yep, he will definitely be the ‘fall guy’… the other one, Kadyrov is already suffering from suspected poisoning. Looks like some of the elite are covering their backs and eliminating the more vocal warmongers…..

Positioning for an end game?

 

[peteblue]

Positioning for an end game?

I would guess…..

 

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[tsubaki]

Should be doing that regardless.

Of all the things that really wind me up about how "the West" has handled this, that is one of the biggest.

Some of the antics - one of the Baltic states cancelling sending hundreds of thousands of COVID jabs to Bangladesh because they abstained on one of the early votes for example - are truly disgusting, and seemed designed more to make Russia sound reasonable than anything else.

 

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[Mutzo Nutzo]

I saw the full unedited version and it was horrific.

Russian troops are vermin.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Channel 4 news saying it's taking months for Western support to arrive to then be able to be conclusive... Is support being agreed now to keep the conveyor belt moving, by that I mean, the drip of more advanced machines, weapons and ammo needs to be a continual and steadily increasing amount. Make russia spend everything it has to try to keep up.