Current Affairs Ukraine

[ramacca]

Is Russia going to take on the US? As the alleged source of all evil?

If not why not? What's up with them? Cowards?

It may have skipped your notice but they are in Ukraine.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

It may have skipped your notice but they are in Ukraine.

Yes mate, but you said the US must be stopped.

So why not pick on the Big Boys. Deal with the main issue?

One might think it's actually Russian expansionist ambitions that's the cause here. Which may also explain the antipathy to the perception of another power's expansionism.

So, anyway, why can't or won't the might Russian bear go and sort put the Yanks? Why bully the Neighbours?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Yes mate, but you said the US must be stopped.

So why not pick on the Big Boys. Deal with the main issue?

One might think it's actually Russian expansionist ambitions that's the cause here. Which may also explain the antipathy to the perception of another power's expansionism.

So, anyway, why can't or won't the might Russian bear go and sort put the Yanks? Why bully the Neighbours?

As has been evidenced during this ego invasion, the USA would walk through Russia in a matter of days. The only reaction Russia would have is to ensure Russia was totally vaporised and most likely end the world by launching a nuke.

I suppose we will also never get an answer as to what Ukrainian women and children have done to poor old @ramacca to make him hate them so much. Very sad.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Yes mate, but you said the US must be stopped.

So why not pick on the Big Boys. Deal with the main issue?

One might think it's actually Russian expansionist ambitions that's the cause here. Which may also explain the antipathy to the perception of another power's expansionism.

So, anyway, why can't or won't the might Russian bear go and sort put the Yanks? Why bully the Neighbours?

They don’t pick on anyone that could fight back. They will learn a very tough lesson. Russia is in deep trouble Once the gloves come off. Many nations they controlled as the Soviet Union want a big piece of them.

 

[devogue]

It may have skipped your notice but the civil war in the Ukraine has expanded into US led NATO v Russia.

If the US/NATO was in Ukraine right now in full capacity then the war would be over.

 

[ramacca]

If it is propoganda it is the book the Putin is reading from.

I am curious as to why you are so committed to ignoring the invasion of Ukraine and the true horror that Russia are bringing to Ukrainian citizens in their homes, and consistently point at the west.

What have Ukrainian women and children ever done to you?

It's nice to know that some more parts of Mariupol are being rebuilt, that will house families.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

It's nice to know that some more parts of Mariupol are being rebuilt, that will house families.

Thank kidda ?





Back to the point of interest, what have Ukrainian women and children ever done to you?

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

If the US/NATO was in Ukraine right now in full capacity then the war would be over.

Not even close.

 

[McBain]

You missed out a few. Giving arms to Joshua Nkomo's Zimbabwe African People's Union. Supplying weapons to uMkhonto we Sizwe the military wing of the ANC. I take it it is a criticism of the support given to Vietnam and Laos against the US Empire? For supporting Angola's and Mozambique's military fight against Apartheid South Africa?

Oh no, we are just playing ‘whos got the biggest annoying government that meddles in other countries affairs’. Im not sure who’s winning! Could be the US but its close.

Look, If it feels like your being attacked on all sides here from fellow blues, from all across the World, any rational person would take a minute to think about why. Surely?

 

[McBain]

It may have skipped your notice but they are in Ukraine.

They were but for different reasons remember?

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Idk how he isn't thread banned tbh. @Kev The Rat did far less and got booted.

This has been in my thoughts too.

Chico is banned from here but @ramacca appears to be a pitiful person that is full of hate who is spamming this forum daily with Russian propaganda possibly in an attempt to make everyone as hate filled as he. Or possibly to compensate for sexual dysfunction.

I know this place is unmoderated but only to a degree. If I were to post hardcore pornography in here I could expect a swift departure and I think we can all agree pornography is much more insightful and enjoyable than endless twaddle about how somehow the West and Ukraine are to blame for Russia being forced to commit international genocide against a sovereign nation.

 

[McBain]

This has been in my thoughts too.

Chico is banned from here but @ramacca appears to be a pitiful person that is full of hate who is spamming this forum daily with Russian propaganda possibly in an attempt to make everyone as hate filled as he. Or possibly to compensate for sexual dysfunction.

I know this place is unmoderated but only to a degree. If I were to post hardcore pornography in here I could expect a swift departure and I think we can all agree pornography is much more insightful and enjoyable than endless twaddle about how somehow the West and Ukraine are to blame for Russia being forced to commit international genocide against a sovereign nation.

 

[hirons11]

It's nice to know that some more parts of Mariupol are being rebuilt, that will house families.

It‘s a good job they don’t have to deal with UK Local Planning Authorities as they’d still be waiting for some pre app advice. One advantage of a dictatorship I admit.

 

[PKwalnuts]

Nothing misleading about it.

"Elected on a platform of de-escalation of hostilities with Russia, Zelensky was determined to enforce the so-called Steinmeier Formula conceived by then-German Foreign Minister Walter Steinmeier which called for elections in the Russian-speaking regions of Donetsk and Lugansk.

In a face-to-face confrontation with militants from the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion who had launched a campaign to sabotage the peace initiative called “No to Capitulation,” Zelensky encountered a wall of obstinacy.

With appeals for disengagement from the frontlines firmly rejected, Zelensky melted down on camera. “I’m the president of this country. I’m 41 years old. I’m not a loser. I came to you and told you: Remove the weapons,” Zelensky implored the fighters.

https://liveuamap.com/en/2019/26-october-president-of-ukraine-zelensky-has-visited-disengaging…

Once video of the stormy confrontation spread across Ukrainian social media channels, Zelensky became the target of an angry backlash.

Andriy Biletsky, the proudly fascist Azov Battalion leader who once pledged to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade…against Semite-led Untermenschen”, vowed to bring thousands of fighters to Zolote if Zelensky pressed any further. Meanwhile, a parliamentarian from the party of former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko openly fantasized about Zelensky being blown to bits by a militant’s grenade.

Though Zelensky achieved a minor disengagement, the neo-Nazi paramilitaries escalated their “No Capitulation” campaign. And within months, fighting began to heat up again in Zolote, sparking a new cycle of violations of the Minsk Agreement.

By this point, Azov had been formally incorporated into the Ukrainian military and its street vigilante wing, known as the National Corps, was deployed across the country under the watch of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry, and alongside the National Police. In December 2021, Zelensky would be seen delivering a “Hero of Ukraine” award to a leader of the fascistic Right Sector in a ceremony in Ukraine’s parliament".

No, by Smoke and Mirrors I was referring to what the mobilised have been given to fight with.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

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