Current Affairs Ukraine

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magicjuan said:
I suppose none of ours are?
Trigger words today? Europe. Europe. Europe.
You need to understand what propaganda is and how it works before thinking it as one sided.
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Considering where I'm from, where I live and what I do for said life, I'd say I'm very much educated on what Russian propaganda is.

If you wanna watch RT, it's great, go watch it, you can do so online, they'll definitely be very pro-Russia. Except in English, that's the difference. But it's what it is - Russian propaganda. How great Russia is doing. The greatness of the Russian army. The Russian people are all in favour of Putin and behind him.
 
The binman chronicles said:
It wouldn't have stopped them if it hadn't have been as powerful message, there was still a portion of the Japanese leadership who still wanted to fight on to the bitter end AFTER the bombs dropped. 9/11 has absolutely no correlation to do with what happened at Hiroshima and Nagasaki so that point is irrelevant in the extreme.

If another peaceful solution could have been found then great, it couldn't and what happened even though repulsive stopped millions of Japanese civilians from suffering the same fate through conventional bombing and fighting that would have taken place to take these cities. It's easy 70+ years after the event to say you shouldn't do this or that, during that war those choices were real, hundreds of thousands vs millions.
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They could have demonstrated the bomb. In a different way on Japan soil once or twice. Wiped out a forest or a mountain in view of military generals and warned the next one is a city.

It's funny how they sold obliterating an entire city twice with all its inoccent inhabitants in it. They sold the justification of that. And people find it normal and acceptable. And will defend it to this day. Its absolutely outrageous.

You are correct smashing planes into two buildings should not to be compared to dropping 2 nuclear bombs on two cities and incinerated all its innocent civilians. To hurry up the war.

So many other options than what they did. Technically and literally the biggest act of terror known to mankind. No matter the sold justification.
 
Ghost Rider said:
Do they have any?

The bigger picture when it comes to nukes is whoever it is that presses the button , kills people in so many countries. Because it won't be one and war over.

Couldn't imagine having to make that decision.
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Anyone who does it would be directly responsible for the genocide to end all genocides. Hopefully no one would want to be the person to cause that
 
magicjuan said:
Our 'take on it' is no different, it's still out and out propaganda from our side. Vested interests. This is economics at war, nothing else.
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Well I know what side I’d prefer to listen to. No interest in a channel that will be trying to justify the invasion of a peaceful country.
 
DualityNSNO said:
Considering where I'm from, where I live and what I do for said life, I'd say I'm very much educated on what Russian propaganda is.

If you wanna watch RT, it's great, go watch it, you can do so online, they'll definitely be very pro-Russia. Except in English, that's the difference. But it's what it is - Russian propaganda. How great Russia is doing. The greatness of the Russian army. The Russian people are all in favour of Putin and behind him.
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And when talking about western forces 'our' media does no different. It's the same as slagging the Russians off for having nuclear warheads when we're littered with them. Neither are right and both are wrong.
 
magicjuan said:
Our 'take on it' is no different, it's still out and out propaganda from our side. Vested interests. This is economics at war, nothing else.
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Sure, but our take on it is that of the non-dictatorship that harms its own people. Also it's partial to Ukraine, obviously, but it's not like no one is reporting anything about the Russian side of things.
 
Ghost Rider said:
Do they have any?

The bigger picture when it comes to nukes is whoever it is that presses the button , kills people in so many countries. Because it won't be one and war over.

Couldn't imagine having to make that decision.
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Point being, and I'm sure there are nukes based in Ukraine, if Ukraine is desperate and they have control it's easy to see that desperation translate onto the battlefield
 
magicjuan said:
And when talking about western forces 'our' media does no different. It's the same as slagging the Russians off for having nuclear warheads when we're littered with them. Neither are right and both are wrong.
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If we're littered, they are suffocating with them, that's the issue, that's why they are getting slagged off.

Sorry mate, but agree to disagree - the Russian side of this, i.e. invading an innocent country for literally no reason or provocation other than a borderline sadist dictator's interest in re-instating communism and the USSR apparently is not right in ANY way. The death of many for is nothing good or right.
 
magicjuan said:
Point being, and I'm sure there are nukes based in Ukraine, if Ukraine is desperate and they have control it's easy to see that desperation translate onto the battlefield
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Wait, what? You're sure there's nukes based in Ukraine? Is there anywhere we can read about this - that's like... brand new information.
 
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