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[tsubaki]

Why on Earth should Ukraine have to cede the Donbass as the price of not having Putin's troops raping and murdering civilians? "Give me whatever I demand, or I'll invade and take it by force." That's not international diplomacy. That's piracy, just without ships.

As for not joining NATO: good Lord above. The sheer absurdity of demanding such a thing marks Putin as a psychopath.

unfortunately this is exactly what international diplomacy is, pace Clauswitz

 

[davids]

As Samuel Johnson put it:
"Among the calamities of war may be jointly numbered the diminution of the love of truth, by the falsehoods which interest dictates and credulity encourages." ( The Idler, 1758)

Apparently there's an uprising in Moscow today, so no harm done.

 

[Tree13]

Maybe read it,it is online.

Can't we take your word for it then?

Your summary of its contents meets the description of "It was crap and favoured Russia".

Are you now suggesting your summary was inaccurate?

 

[Lobster Johnson]

he served in Spetsnaz during the Soviet Afghan war.

That went well...

 

[Tree13]

unfortunately this is exactly what international diplomacy is, pace Clauswitz

Not sure Clauswitz was extolling the high moral quality of such efforts though.

 

[davids]

Asked them all have you?

Get out a bit more,step away from Twitter, learn another couple of languages. The internet is the door to the rest of the world.

 

[LinekersLegs]

The guy promoted is actually very competent and a proper military guy rather than a lot of the higher echelon ones who are either in position due to connections etc, this guy worked his way up - he served in Spetsnaz during the Soviet Afghan war.

Just reading a short profile of him

What Russia's military shake-up reveals about Putin's war in Ukraine

Colonel General Alexander Lapin now heads up Russia's Central Group of Forces in Ukraine; General Sergei Surovikin is in charge of the Southern Group of Forces

t.co

His stint at the air force doesn’t seem to have paid many dividends but suppose was relatively short tenure and not his area.

 

[davids]

Can't we take your word for it then?

Your summary of its contents meets the description of "It was crap and favoured Russia".

Are you now suggesting your summary was inaccurate?

Never have I favoured Russia, just shown a healthy mistrust of US generated propaganda.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Get out a bit more,step away from Twitter, learn another couple of languages. The internet is the door to the rest of the world.

How many languages do you know, Friend?

 

[davids]

you can still sell weapons and play an active role in peace - that is what Erdogan has done

But to the extent the US and UK have?

 

[davids]

How many languages do you know, Friend?

As many as I've needed to,so that helps with Latin America and French speaking Africa.

 

[DualityNSNO]

But to the extent the US and UK have?

BUTWHATABOUTTHEUSA

Jokes or not we were right it seems @MaupsGoat

Unreal troll.

 

[DualityNSNO]

As many as I've needed to,so that helps with Latin America and French speaking Africa.

Keeping it vague to just say "only English" then.

Good one.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Tree13]

Won't even go into getting given 60kg of flower by Yulias dad about five years ago, given none of us actually bake ...

Mrs. Tree leaves almost that amount strewn all over the worktop, the floor and the dog every time she bakes.