Current Affairs Ukraine

[Spadge Vernacular]

With all that is going on the that Russia is still an oppresive empire occupying others lands tends to be lost in the narrative around Ukraine. ?

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[dublinbluenose]

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[bluestevon]

to suggest 2014 internally split the country is to suggest that half of Ukraine supported the Russian invasion.
I would have thought support for that invasion would only have come from a percentage of pro Russian Ukranians from the eastern regions.

Mate I'm not speaking about the annexation of Crimea, but yup the overthrow of a democratically elected leader who was elected in huge part on his eastern Ukraine support was a powder keg moment

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

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From the ads that they are putting on here they look like a friendly bunch.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Well if their morale was bad beforehand am sure this inspiring speech about what supplies you need to provide for yourself will buck them right up.

 

[bluestevon]

That didn't happen in a vacuum though - it was the consequence of Yanukovych throwing away the support he genuinely did have at one point in favour of lining his own pockets and then marching his country up the hill of the EU Agreement only in order to abandon it at the top.

Like with Iran at present (or the UK in a few months potentially), when a government deliberately or through uncaring incompetence stokes public dissent it will always run the risk of being turfed out. The risk increases when they also block off any legitimate means for something sensible to be done before things get to that point.

I agree mate, and weirdly I strongly believe had the Russians not gone into Ukraine in Feb, then we'd have seen uprisings against the current regime from Ukraine. His popularity was down to 12% and was strong indicators they would attack the Donbass in a very large assault

 

[Goat]

Well if their morale was bad beforehand am sure this inspiring speech about what supplies you need to provide for yourself will buck them right up.

Cant wait to get shot and then stick a tampax in the bullet wound.

 

[PhilM]

Cant wait to get shot and then stick a tampax in the bullet wound.

Better than bleeding out, I suppose. When you're not being issued basic medical kits, you're going to worry where the food, fuel and ammunition will come from.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Well if their morale was bad beforehand am sure this inspiring speech about what supplies you need to provide for yourself will buck them right up.

My basic training suddenly feels a lot less basic.

 

[bluestevon]

Preaching to the converted there mate.

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If you'd ever really engaged in conversation rather then hyperbole mate, you'd understand I view Crimea completely differently to Donbass and 'new Russia' on fundamental levels.

But you haven't, so you don't, but hey that's life

 

[bluestevon]

@PhilM not a chsnce on earth this is the stated 300k recruitment btw, it's much much larger - just going off stuff I know have heard personally

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

@PhilM not a chsnce on earth this is the stated 300k recruitment btw, it's much much larger - just going off stuff I know have heard personally

I will agree with you there.

 

[Ruairi77]

Mate I'm not speaking about the annexation of Crimea, but yup the overthrow of a democratically elected leader who was elected in huge part on his eastern Ukraine support was a powder keg moment

That's fair enough but I would argue that the Russian puppet government lead to the revolution in 2014 and Ukraine is far less divided now than it was back then. The Russians have only managed to unify Ukraine.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

If you'd ever really engaged in conversation rather then hyperbole mate, you'd understand I view Crimea completely differently to Donbass and 'new Russia' on fundamental levels.

But you haven't, so you don't, but hey that's life

Tbf, you have made your bias clear from the off, so I salute you for that. It does have implications though.

 

[larrygobfiend]

I agree mate, and weirdly I strongly believe had the Russians not gone into Ukraine in Feb, then we'd have seen uprisings against the current regime from Ukraine. His popularity was down to 12% and was strong indicators they would attack the Donbass in a very large assault

Twaddle