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davids
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So asking for a ceasefire to end the deaths of innocent women and children is an agenda?
You need to revisit your own mental health maybe?
If they think things are bad now, just wait ‘til Wagner group return with their very own Dirty Dozen units made from enlisted prisoners.
I’m sure they will all be mentally stable troops willing to follow the Geneva Convention to the letter… ?
FrenchDarrenBent
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They're already cutting off genitals of living POW's.
How much worse can it get?
Lobster Johnson
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His position changes with what he thinks can wind people up the most,
Based on the experiences of numerous conflicts, a lot, sadly. War can, if left unchecked, let the sadist and macabre prosper and cause untold misery.
I know I've said it before, but I suspect that most people want this war to end, and that will eventually be as a result of some form of ceasefire.
On that, we can agree. The devil is the detail and right now any form of ceasefire may benefit Russia more than Ukraine et al., in the short-term and long-term.
Ukraine will have lost vital territory, it's people in the occupied territory would be at risk of persecution and the state would remain at risk of further hostilities.
All things considered, is to their advantage? It's not as simple as going, 'Make peace now' and I suspect you may know that, hence the agenda concerns.
This is why many people, including those in power, will sustain the war until it reaches a position where Ukraine's sovereignty and its population are safe.
Sadly, and I truly mean that, a consequence of that will be more untimely deaths, yet again the consideration of more misery and death in the future.
It's an easy if not imperfect comparison, but in WWII the UK could have sought peace in 1940 to 'to end the deaths of innocent women and children.'`
But would it have, and for whom? The innocent people of UK alone or are to consider in France, Italy, Russia, the Baltic States and Germany itself.
Maintaining the status quo, with Putin in charge, will likely cause more innocent deaths in Ukraine and let's not ignore Russia itself, where change is required.
Honestly, do you think stopping the war now would be the best solution for all now and in the future, or would it benefit one side more than the other?
Before you reference past wars instigated by the west and how western arms manufactures are benefiting too, I'm not oblivious to that either.
But again, all things concerned, who is the greatest threat to the Ukrainian people and likewise the Russian people? My answer starts with a P...
When Ukraine has retained their interests and Russian hasn't been proven correct to attack a country (killing innocent people), a ceasefire will be offered.
Making it illegal to surrender isn't going to improve moral or make them fight any better. It's more likely to make them to desert and/or kill their NCO's or officers.
Russian gangsta and crime lord Igor Kursk, who was serving a life sentence for a double murder (among other things). Has been slotted whilst fighting for Wagner near Bakhmut.
Oh dear…how sad…never mind
Oh dear…how sad…never mind
Could probably end the mutual prisoner exchanges as well. Can’t imagine many captured Russians would be happy to go back only to be locked up again.
Sooo they get 15 years for pillage.
That means that at least 75% of their committed forces should now be locked up for stealing washing machines and toilets.
If this is representative of the weapons that were in storage I dread to think what food/clothing supplies look like for the new conscripts, especially given winter is on the horizon.
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