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[Spadge Vernacular]

Anyone who supports Putins invasion is supporting paedophilia, rape and murder.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Understanding the Russian turd chain - vranyo.

Ukraine war: 'vranyo' – Russian for when you lie and everyone knows it, but you don't care

‘Vranyo’ is the Russian word for a lie that you tell to make yourself look good, whether people believe it or not.

theconversation.com

Why The Kremlin Lies: Understanding Its Loose Relationship With the Truth

Russian leaders have used deception for strategic ends in ways that shed light on their geopolitical goals

carnegieendowment.org

 

[davids]

Well, he does have more experience than myself and I suspect others on here, so to that extent yes as he has specialist knowledge of air forces and whatnot.

Did he specialise in dealing with different aircraft and ordinance with classified information? I suspect so.

A bomb loader with access to classified information,please!? he's just a cut and paste fantasist.

 

[davids]

Any poster who is looking to justify the invasion is a supporter of Putin, because the invasion is completely unjustifiable. So the next time you call out posts that support him, consider your own.

I've stated on several occasions that Putin is a psychopath. But then that description could be applied to some western heads of state. It's lazy posting to suggest that anyone who doesn't bang on daily about human rights violations and the killing of innocent women and children is by default a supporter of Putin. Especially when Guantanamo Bay is still open for business and the slaughter of Iraqi civilians is still fresh in the memory.

 

[davids]

WW2
Cuba
Iraq
Chile
Libya
Afghanistan
9/11

All mentioned in one post. Yet no mention of Russia or Ukraine? Just a load of whataboutery. I can't take you seriously, I'm afraid.

Whataboutism,a new phrase to wipe clean the US record of consistently overthrowing governments for financial gain.

 

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[PhilM]

A bomb loader with access to classified information,please!? he's just a cut and paste fantasist.

Many people in the military who work in a specialised role, e.g. who aren't basic infantry or clerical, may have access to classified information to some extent.

Perhaps the understanding of the classification system may aid you there. For example, a weapons technician in the RAF may work with guided munitions etc.

For example, I worked with a colleague, who was ex-RAF, who was a WT on the RAPTOR Pod (Reconnaissance Pod as I know you don't like abbreviations).

He had access to classified information in terms of the pod, its capabilities and how it was integrated into the INT framework used by the RAF and others.

Jako and Dylan will have had access to classified information as part of their role, although only within the remit of their area of specialism. It's very common.

Nobody was suggesting he or anyone else has access to ALL or MOST classified information, but I guess it's an easy mistake for those with no experience.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Many people in the military who work in a specialised role, e.g. who aren't basic infantry or clerical, may have access to classified information to some extent.

Perhaps the understanding of the classification system may aid you there. For example, a weapons technician in the RAF may work with guided munitions etc.

For example, I worked with a colleague, who was ex-RAF, who was a WT on the RAPTOR Pod (Reconnaissance Pod as I know you don't like abbreviations).

He had access to classified information in terms of the pod, its capabilities and how it was integrated into the INT framework used by the RAF and others.

Jako and Dylan will have had access to classified information as part of their role, although only within the remit of their area of specialism. It's very common.

Nobody was suggesting he or anyone else has access to ALL or MOST classified information, but I guess it's an easy mistake for those with no experience.

Right, IIRC there are literally over a million people with a Top Secret clearance in the United States.

Need-to-know precludes most people from seeing most classified information.

 

[davids]

Any poster who is looking to justify the invasion is a supporter of Putin, because the invasion is completely unjustifiable. So the next time you call out posts that support him, consider your own.

I've not seen one post that supports him, plenty that question the US part in this modern tragedy. But given the number of the brainwashed on the thread that easily translates into posters being in the pay of the Kremlin?

 

[davids]

Many people in the military who work in a specialised role, e.g. who aren't basic infantry or clerical, may have access to classified information to some extent.

Perhaps the understanding of the classification system may aid you there. For example, a weapons technician in the RAF may work with guided munitions etc.

For example, I worked with a colleague, who was ex-RAF, who was a WT on the RAPTOR Pod (Reconnaissance Pod as I know you don't like abbreviations).

He had access to classified information in terms of the pod, its capabilities and how it was integrated into the INT framework used by the RAF and others.

Jako and Dylan will have had access to classified information as part of their role, although only within the remit of their area of specialism. It's very common.

Nobody was suggesting he or anyone else has access to ALL or MOST classified information, but I guess it's an easy mistake for those with no experience.

It's the internet, anyone can claim anything,then post a load of acronyms they've found on Wikipedia.

 

[davids]

Right, IIRC there are literally over a million people with a Top Secret clearance in the United States.

Need-to-know precludes most people from seeing most classified information.

Did Wikipedia tell you that??‍?

 

[Nightman]

I've stated on several occasions that Putin is a psychopath. But then that description could be applied to some western heads of state. It's lazy posting to suggest that anyone who doesn't bang on daily about human rights violations and the killing of innocent women and children is by default a supporter of Putin. Especially when Guantanamo Bay is still open for business and the slaughter of Iraqi civilians is still fresh in the memory.

I am one of these people who does 'bang on daily' about these atrocities, I'm afraid. And obviously you 'bang on daily' trying to justify the atrocities, so there's that.

 

[davids]

I am one of these people who does 'bang on daily' about these atrocities, I'm afraid. And obviously you 'bang on daily' trying to justify the atrocities, so there's that.

So just quote one post where I have justified any atrocities. I find violence abhorrent hence you'll find most of my posts question why the US and Nato aren't calling for a ceasefire. Why aren't you btw?

 

[PhilM]

It's the internet, anyone can claim anything,then post a load of acronyms they've found on Wikipedia.

Or they could tell the truth.

Right, IIRC there are literally over a million people with a Top Secret clearance in the United States.

Need-to-know precludes most people from seeing most classified information.

Exactly. Here in the UK, you have cops, fireman, civil servants, council staff and so many other people will access to classified stuff.

There’s a spectrum of classification and the access you’re given relates to specific areas rather than generic access; as you say, need to know.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Anyone with even a modicum of intellectual capacity can see and call out the repugnant actions of one imperialist power and also be against similar actions by another.

Puins what about bots are effectively excusing barbaric crimes against the people of Ukraine by deflecting from the issue and saying X,Y and Z do similar, so lets focus on them! There is no excuse, they know what they are doing and as mentioned earlier, that is supporting paedophilia, rape and murder.

Well done lads, he thanks you for your service.