If they`re relying on conscripts, to prop them up in the depths of Winter, the Russian army will struggle.
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If they`re relying on conscripts, to prop them up in the depths of Winter, the Russian army will struggle.
Diogenes the Cynic
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Draft Redstevon please.
Spadge Vernacular
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You might be right. Vlad might try and follow the old Russian approach of sending a man for every bullet the other side has until they have none. He loves Russians and cares about them, you see.
Spadge Vernacular
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One minute you are a teacher bestowing the wonders of the English language to Russian kids, the next thing you know you are sat in a frozen muddy hole in Ukraine, with bombs going of all around you and bullets fizzing over your head all becuase of old Uncle Vlad - who is sat in his palace with his young arms candy, has a mental problem. Who wouldn'y buy into that.
Yarrgh
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Of this there is no doubt. They are meat for the grinder. There will be no good outcome for those put on the front line.
Spadge Vernacular
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Speaking of those being sent to their deaths
Conscripts arrive for basic training.
They look keen!
They look keen!
bluestevon
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Dunno if they will be going front line though mate, about 3/4s of the Russian proper military force involved in the SMO isn't in the front line (think around 60k are currently) but having to do all the massive number of other roles required - my educated guess is once the 300k arrive it'll 'free up' the proper equipped and trained units to be committed to the combat zone.
Combined with a change in approach meaning Russia follows it's full doctrine of engagements without restraints which the SMO applies currently, then this could get very brutal very fast.
Seen reports that Russia have amassed between 700-900 combat aircraft close to Ukraine, up to now the air power has never been used on mass, 1-2 planes used in an area at a time etc, I think that we could see that approach changed soon.
Seen comments about how ineffective the Russian air force has been thus far, but they've never used it on mass (say like we saw the US do in Iraq first time round) we've also not seen them launch any strikes on government command centres, transport systems or the power, communications grid. (Isolated strike but no mass targetting with their best weapons) a change from SMO to war alters strategy hugely.
There's a reason hard liners like Kadyrov have for months been begging the Kremlin to let them off the leash because right now the military hasn't been operating whatsoever to prescribed doctrine - which few western sources have actually highlighted at all.
bluestevon
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Show me one leader during a war who gave a flying one about about the people sent to combat mate, also show me one leader who got down in the trenches - Putin will be in the Kremlin or Palace etc, Zelensky doing a vogue cover shoot (least he got to wash his khaki t-shirt) in Kiev or a PR tour to the 'front line' knowing he's safe, Bush was declaring a war won whilst on a golf course more concerned that people where 'watching this shot'.
Spadge Vernacular
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Won't be long before Zelensky reaches out to Ukraines Ukraine volunteer 900,000 territorial defence units and reservists.
Yarrgh
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So the conscripts get to do the daily grind and the actual soldiers are off to Ukraine? Either way, it's a numbers game that Russia are banking on.
I think that you are right about the tactics and targets changing now. We'll unfortunately get to see how effectively that's done. I don't see anything other than a giant disaster in the offing.
Yarrgh
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Are these well trained units or are they for support services or will they be just Joe Bloggs getting a gun thrust into their hands.
bluestevon
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What do you think has been getting chucked into the meat grinder by Ukraine for months mate?
The strange role of conscription in Ukraine’s war
Does such a popular cause need to order men to fight?
Ukraine’s ban on adult men leaving the country faces growing legal challenges
Several petitions have been launched calling on the government to overturn the measure, and a group of lawyers has filed lawsuits arguing that it violates the constitution
www.theglobeandmail.com
Changed law several days ago banning students studying overseas from leaving the country
Whilst the Ukranian trained army that wasn't destroyed was retraining in western countries - who do you think exactly was being thrown into the front line as a meat shield.
bluestevon
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I agree totally and it's a sad thing that diplomacy hasn't even been attempted.on any serious scale at any point. (Serious diplomacy for me only is realistic when the US sit down around the same table)
larrygobfiend
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What do you think has been getting chucked into the meat grinder by Ukraine for months mate?
The strange role of conscription in Ukraine’s war
Does such a popular cause need to order men to fight?www.economist.com
Ukraine’s ban on adult men leaving the country faces growing legal challenges
Several petitions have been launched calling on the government to overturn the measure, and a group of lawyers has filed lawsuits arguing that it violates the constitution
Changed law several days ago banning students studying overseas from leaving the country
Whilst the Ukranian trained army that wasn't destroyed was retraining in western countries - who do you think exactly was being thrown into the front line as a meat shield.
They’re defending their country and your lot (I’m including you in that) are invading.
That’s the difference.
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