Without much success - hence the recruitment of convicted criminals.
My thoughts are - whose going to train all these “new” recruits?
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My thoughts are - whose going to train all these “new” recruits?
bluestevon
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It's massively different mate, the key to this is the citizenship guaranteed in one year.
Who bothers with training? Not Russia by the looks of it.
Spadge Vernacular
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Todays laws introducing harsh penalties for:
Failing to report for military duty;
surrendering, or;
refusal to fight.
Sounds like they are confident that there recruits will be up for a fight!
Vlad is clearly feeling the pressure, especially as his recent meetings with China, India and the people he wanted on board have been made public that they want the criminal war stopped.
It very much looks like the final thrashes of an isolated man.
bluestevon
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It's not a good thing at all mate, it's typical war where the people fighting and dying will be from the poor and disadvantaged groups.
Rafael
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A Mexican signing up to fight for the US and being dropped into the thick of Vietnam would be canoeing home within a week. Totally different motivation fighting to protect your homeland, your wife and children. The Russian troops that have been in Ukraine will fully understand this.
Spadge Vernacular
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The new recruits will probably be more heroic convicts. They have about half a million, though a good percentage of these will be Putins opponents.
It’ll take at least 4 months to get them into some kind of orderly rabble. By that time it’ll be mid winter and whatever Russians are left in Ukraine will be next to useless. So this new lot will be thrust into combat as completely new BTG’s (they won’t be merged into existing units). The results will be utter carnage as they’ll be up against seasoned, battle-hardened Ukranian units.
One of the things the Russians have failed to do is attain any form of air-superiority let alone air supremacy.
Without that - they are stuffed.
Makes me think of the quote by the Duke of Wellington after the battle of Waterloo.
“They came at us in the same old way and we dealt with them in the same old way”.
tsubaki
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FWIW the Guardian reported today that some of the people Wagner recruited out of the prison system were fighting within a week (albeit they may have had previous military training / experience).
If true then that’s ridiculous - they’ll be dead within a few weeks.
To reach the level of a standard infantry soldier in the British army takes 6 months then they go onto specialist training (fire & Manouvre, combat support etc.
"We are go for 'Operation Pawn Sacrifice', repeat, we are go"
bluestevon
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Untrained troops thrown in don't tend to last long.
Throwing these lads in whilst their veteran units retrained away from the front line in NATO countries did enable the counter offensive in Kharkiv though tbf.
Guess Russia will think similarly if it recruits a large amount from the various initiatives it's doing.
Basic rule is poorly trained troops don't tend to last long in war.
With all this talk of recruiting with incentives, offering convicts freedom and immigrants citizenship and the like, it makes you wonder what the catch is?
You have to assume these would void any agreement, which makes the 'surrendering' part very sinister. "Fight until you die or go back to prison"
You have to assume these would void any agreement, which makes the 'surrendering' part very sinister. "Fight until you die or go back to prison"
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