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[bluestevon]

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Ok I'll play your game mate, Turkey are using the Kurdish position of Sweden and Finland in order to blackmail both countries into changing policy on the Kurds, banning their political parties and kicking them out of Sweden, NATO is directly supplying weapons in the conflict in Ukraine - hence pointing out the actions which casts light on the opinion of a NATO countries head who is playing both sides for political and economic gain for his own country (well not for the Kurds ofc), there you go - Kurdish situation actually is a factor in the Ukraine one - thus valid to point out in this thread.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

So let's get this right, you mention what the Turkish president said about Ukraine, and I'm not allowed to point out that this is the same guy using his military to kill people inside his own and other countries based on their ethnicity?

Nice rules your playing by there.

I mention that he is one of the many voices of world leaders calling out the disgusting actions of Russia.

Feel free to start a Kurdish thread or any other that you are constantly trying to deflect to but lets try and keep this about Russias invasion of Ukraine. Should be fairly easy to understand.

 

[bluestevon]

I mention that he is one of the many voices of world leaders calling out the disgusting actions of Russia.

Feel free to start a Kurdish thread or any other that you are constantly trying to deflect to but lets try and keep this about Russias invasion of Ukraine. Should be fairly easy to understand.

And what shouldn't also be hard to understand is that if you bring something into the thread then you've made it fair game to reply questioning the reputation, history and motives of what's being said and the person saying it.

Unless you believe Ukraine exists in some isolated bubble.

If you quote officials making comments on Ukraine, then how on earth is looking at other things or actions from that official not relevant, it's called putting something into context.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

And what shouldn't also be hard to understand is that if you bring something into the thread then you've made it fair game to reply questioning the reputation, history and motives of what's being said and the person saying it.

Unless you believe Ukraine exists in some isolated bubble.

If you quote officials making comments on Ukraine, then how on earth is looking at other things or actions from that official not relevant, it's called putting something into context.

Off you go again!

I said that even Turkey are a part of the tide of opinion against Russias disgusting behaviour, and even offered that Russia should leave all of Ukraine including Crimea.

Then you immediately try and take the conversation away from Russias actions in Ukraine and start talking about the Kurdish issue. The Kurdish issue existed long before Ukraine and sadly will probably after Russia have been sent packing. It is your usual tactic and along with your other posts is simply you on a path to destroying any remaining respect that a lot of posters may have for you, if any.

 

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I’m not well versed in these things so a question for the group. How will the winter weather affect/shape the conflict?

 

[bluestevon]

Off you go again!

I said that even Turkey are a part of the tide of opinion against Russias disgusting behaviour, and even offered that Russia should leave all of Ukraine including Crimea.

Then you immediately try and take the conversation away from Russias actions in Ukraine and start talking about the Kurdish issue. The Kurdish issue existed long before Ukraine and sadly will probably after Russia have been sent packing. It is your usual tactic and along with your other posts is simply you on a path to destroying any remaining respect that a lot of posters may have for you, if any.

I think I'll survive mate, I'm not particularly arsed about you projecting your thoughts about how others view me, it's up to them ultimately, not me or you to say what they is.

Here's the thing though, you constantly go on about whatsboutism or deflecting from me, yup I do indeed often mention stuff - but more often than not it's after actually responding first to the things put to me.

Like mentioning Azov earlier AFTER I had responded on your Wagner post, thing is you just ignore that and throw out the deflecting line. When in fact only one of us was actually answering the others raised point.

But fair enough you don't respect me, I'll live, I don't respect someone who is so blinkered or narrow thinking that they can't discuss anything unless it's on their very specific terms.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I think I'll survive mate, I'm not particularly arsed about you projecting your thoughts about how others view me, it's up to them ultimately, not me or you to say what they is.

Here's the thing though, you constantly go on about whatsboutism or deflecting from me, yup I do indeed often mention stuff - but more often than not it's after actually responding first to the things put to me.

Like mentioning Azov earlier AFTER I had responded on your Wagner post, thing is you just ignore that and throw out the deflecting line. When in fact only one of us was actually answering the others raised point.

But fair enough you don't respect me, I'll live, I don't respect someone who is so blinkered or narrow thinking that they can't discuss anything unless it's on their very specific terms.

Maybe you do not even realise that you are doing it but you levles of whataboutery are off the chart. I posted a humerous image with the line "are we the baddies" in line with the possibility that you and a couple of others might wake up. If someone mentions an atrocity committed or concern at Russias invasion you and your couple of mates coming back with "but what about" NATO/the USA/the West etc. In this instance you see the image and immediately defelct to Asov! I am not sure if you are aware that you are consistently deflecting but would say that it is not going to change the situation. Russia have invaded Ukraine and are killing and raping people in their homes.

 

[Yarrgh]

I’m not well versed in these things so a question for the group. How will the winter weather affect/shape the conflict?

This is a very big question.

 

[Kurt.]

I’m not well versed in these things so a question for the group. How will the winter weather affect/shape the conflict?

They’re gonna be cold mate ?

 

[dublinbluenose]

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

It is welcome support and hopefully will see the pressure continuing to build on Putin. ?

If comrade steveski comes in crying about the Kurds or humus, just ignore it, mate.

 

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Both Putin and Shoigu are apparently expected to address nation tonight. Speculation is they gonna declare (partial) mobilization and martial law. Or maybe it could be about referendum by Kherson, Luhansk and Donetsk joining Russia.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Both Putin and Shoigu are apparently expected to address nation tonight. Speculation is they gonna declare (partial) mobilization and martial law. Or maybe it could be about referendum by Kherson, Luhansk and Donetsk joining Russia.

Some discussion on the situation

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Both Putin and Shoigu are apparently expected to address nation tonight. Speculation is they gonna declare (partial) mobilization and martial law. Or maybe it could be about referendum by Kherson, Luhansk and Donetsk joining Russia.

The Russian stock market took a hammering today - maybe investors are worried about the economy going into reverse in response to a potential call for full mobilization.

 

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The Russian stock market took a hammering today - maybe investors are worried about the economy going into reverse in response to a potential call for full mobilization.

Yeah, something is cooking. What a [Poor language removed] disaster this gonna be if they do that, this war is already bloody, this just gonna up the ante to horrible levels