Current Affairs Ukraine

[dublinbluenose]

Some discussion on the situation

Not unexpected but a sign of desperation as well. When moscovites are returning in body bags in big numbers it'll be interesting to see how the Oligarchs and FSB react.

 

[larrygobfiend]

You ready to fight @bluestevon? ?

 

[bluestevon]

You ready to fight @bluestevon?

With the law that's just been passed by the Russian Duma, they won't be struggling to recruit mate.

They've just instantly guaranteed a huge amount of people previously unable who'll now be desperate to join the army

 

[LostLegend]

Some discussion on the situation

 

[bluestevon]

Literally millions of immigrants working in Russia from the various old eastern USSR countries - most of whom are desperate to obtain Russian citizenship which takes 7-8 years at least (during which they are apart from their families usually working bloody hard jobs for low pay and bad conditions) now have a way to do so in one year - which will enable them and their families to become Russian citizens.

Russia has just opened up a recruitment pool of millions previously unable to join.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

 

[bluestevon]

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

It's actually something I never even thought of as an option, to put a context on it, what would happen if the US gave citizenship to any Mexican and their family who agreed to one years military service. I don't think they'd have any problem with recruitment for a long time.

Question about where Russia will be able to obtain a huge increase in troops from without mobilization just became very easy to answer.

 

[bluestevon]

Put into context - Russia has about 14 million migrant workers currently per year. The vast majority of which are 18-30 year old men, trying to obtain citizenship and support their families back home.

 

[roydo]

It's actually something I never even thought of as an option, to put a context on it, what would happen if the US gave citizenship to any Mexican and their family who agreed to one years military service. I don't think they'd have any problem with recruitment for a long time.

Question about where Russia will be able to obtain a huge increase in troops from without mobilization just became very easy to answer.

It does take a while to train green recruits into an effective fighting force mate. The "well trained" regular Russian army were not all that were they?

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

It's actually something I never even thought of as an option, to put a context on it, what would happen if the US gave citizenship to any Mexican and their family who agreed to one years military service. I don't think they'd have any problem with recruitment for a long time.

Question about where Russia will be able to obtain a huge increase in troops from without mobilization just became very easy to answer.

It's all about to kick off. Putin wanted a fight with NATO he will surely get it now. The gloves will be off. The West has anticipated this for a long time. Looks very grim for everyone. Russian Black sea fleet removed from Crimea and here troop movements ramping up. I knew something was up last week before the Ukraine gains.

 

[tsubaki]

Literally millions of immigrants working in Russia from the various old eastern USSR countries - most of whom are desperate to obtain Russian citizenship which takes 7-8 years at least (during which they are apart from their families usually working bloody hard jobs for low pay and bad conditions) now have a way to do so in one year - which will enable them and their families to become Russian citizens.

Russia has just opened up a recruitment pool of millions previously unable to join.

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They've been recruiting / trying to recruit from that pool for some time

 

[bluestevon]

It does take a while to train green recruits into an effective fighting force mate. The "well trained" regular Russian army were not all that were they?

Russia is currently using sub 20% of it's regular army in Ukraine mate, the rest due to various security commitments is effectively locked in place (border of Georgia, Armenia, China, the island near Japan, Finish border etc etc) an increase in the army size enables the redeployment of those fully trained and equipped units to Ukraine.

Russia like Ukraine had also has the ability to train new units in 'safety' which is unusual in a conflict of this magnitude..

As for evaluating the effectiveness of the Russian army so far, been a mixed bag - by and large the Ukranians are heavily reliant on western supplied equipment now and have been for a while which suggests a huge amount of the vast military equipment was destroyed. Ukranians throwing in poorly trained and organised (but immensely brave) territorial defense units for several months in the east also likely lead to truly horrific Ukrainian casualties on that front especially. A 10/15:1 advantage in an artillery war is no fair fight

The northern Kharkiv battle was a catastrophic blunder on any level from the Russian side although the seemed to not lose that mdny troops (equipment though another matter)

 

[larrygobfiend]

Put into context - Russia has about 14 million migrant workers currently per year. The vast majority of which are 18-30 year old men, trying to obtain citizenship and support their families back home.

Alright mate, I know you’re excited, but try not to jizz too much.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Alright mate, I know you’re excited, but try not to jizz too much.

Major cheerleader isn't he?

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Retired Russian General: Time for A Nuclear Attack on Germany and Britain

A retired Russian general made a bold statement on a nighttime program stating Moscow should launch a nuclear attack on Germany and Britain.

www.19fortyfive.com

Nice chap though.