The Moyes influence on Everton.

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Look, Moyes was the medicine we needed to take at the time.

It could be massively frustrating, but he was the right man for the right job at the right time in our history.

If we go on in the next little period and win things, regardless we should tip our cap to the steadying hand of Davey.
Perfectly sums up how I feel.

I can't for the life of me understand why a team like Sunderland don't try to tempt him back to the Premier League.
 
Moyes was given somewhere around 11m over 11 years. The rest he made himself through buying and selling, he wasn't given the money, he generated it himself through his transfer ability. That he broke the record three times is just testament to how well he actually did, especially when he never even got all the transfer money year on year.

How many times did we sell players for more than those record fees?

Those record signings cost less than Jack Rodwell sold for and to be honest, its more a sign of how skint our club was, than any indication of backing received.

Martinez has already signed 3 of the top 5 most expensive players in Everton's history and hasn't had to sell to do it... That's my idea of being given funds.

Are you sure about that. I am only asking but didn't the Anichebe, Jelavic and Fellani money basically cover his buys?
 
Are you sure about that. I am only asking but didn't the Anichebe, Jelavic and Fellani money basically cover his buys?

Fellaini bought for 15m and sold for 27.5 is another example of Moyes quality at buying players and making Everton a profit.. But whilst that covered the cost of Lukaku.
Mcarthy and Mori were massively more expensive than Jelavic and Anichebe, let alone adding in Kone, Besic, Deulofeu etc

Martinez is spending money Moyes simply didn't have unless he sold players to get it.

http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=942&teamTabs=transfers
http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=942&teamTabs=transfers
http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=942&teamTabs=transfers

First window received +19m
Second window spent -37m
Third window spent another -14m
51m out - 19m in = 32m net spend in three summers, whole different world in terms of the transfer policy since the tv money came in.
Made no money back at all in fact during the last two windows from player sales.

Worth noting if we had sold Stones, (another Moyes signing), we would of finished in the black so fair play to everyone involved for resisting that option.
 
They probably have. He lives in one of the most beautiful towns in Spain. Have you ever been to Sunderland!?
TBH, I've never been to Sunderland but in my experience there are nice places to live around all major cities/towns. Besides he's from Glasgow isn't he?
I do wonder though if one of the 'up and down' clubs have approached him.
 
Fellaini bought for 15m and sold for 27.5 is another example of Moyes quality at buying players and making Everton a profit.. But whilst that covered the cost of Lukaku.
Mcarthy and Mori were massively more expensive than Jelavic and Anichebe, let alone adding in Kone, Besic, Deulofeu etc

Martinez is spending money Moyes simply didn't have unless he sold players to get it.

http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=942&teamTabs=transfers
http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=942&teamTabs=transfers
http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=942&teamTabs=transfers

First window received +19m
Second window spent -37m
Third window spent another -14m
51m out - 19m in = 32m net spend in three summers, whole different world in terms of the transfer policy since the tv money came in.
Made no money back at all in fact during the last two windows from player sales.

Worth noting if we had sold Stones, (another Moyes signing), we would of finished in the black so fair play to everyone involved for resisting that option.

Still doesn't add up for me. Thought we got close to 40m for Fellani, Jel and anichebe and IIRC I think there was 1 or 2 younger players that brought in a small amount of money.
The Stones quote only applies if Moyes had utilised Stones otherwise he could have been still only worth 3m. Same with Barkley, in my eyes Martinez has increased the value by having faith and helping them progress. I know Kenwright had said that a bit of money was available to RM and add that on to the sales it more or less evens out. Martinez has also been astute with his signings

Sorry mate just checked your links and according to my figures we have spent around 67/68m and brought in 40m so it seems we have spent 27m approx. over 3 summers.
 
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Still doesn't add up for me. Thought we got close to 40m for Fellani, Jel and anichebe and IIRC I think there was 1 or 2 younger players that brought in a small amount of money.
The Stones quote only applies if Moyes had utilised Stones otherwise he could have been still only worth 3m. Same with Barkley, in my eyes Martinez has increased the value by having faith and helping them progress. I know Kenwright had said that a bit of money was available to RM and add that on to the sales it more or less evens out. Martinez has also been astute with his signings

Yep 39m received for those 3..

But then Martinez has spent 39.5m on Kone, Robles, McCarthy, Deulofeu, Besic and Mori

On top of that.. he's also bought Lennon for 4m
...And Lukaku.
 
Excellent manager for us overall but it had gone a bit stale at the end as he'd gotten us as far as he could.

Over to the length of his tenure will be considered a relative success due to the league positions he achieved despite never winning a cup.

Bit silly to make those comments when at Utd which spoilt his legacy bit but there ya go.
 
Still doesn't add up for me. Thought we got close to 40m for Fellani, Jel and anichebe and IIRC I think there was 1 or 2 younger players that brought in a small amount of money.
The Stones quote only applies if Moyes had utilised Stones otherwise he could have been still only worth 3m. Same with Barkley, in my eyes Martinez has increased the value by having faith and helping them progress. I know Kenwright had said that a bit of money was available to RM and add that on to the sales it more or less evens out. Martinez has also been astute with his signings

Sorry mate just checked your links and according to my figures we have spent around 67/68m and brought in 40m so it seems we have spent 27m approx. over 3 summers.

Check your figures, the utter fraud has spunked over 41m out on players.
 
TBH, I've never been to Sunderland but in my experience there are nice places to live around all major cities/towns. Besides he's from Glasgow isn't he?
I do wonder though if one of the 'up and down' clubs have approached him.

I think Moyes has said he's turned down a few Prem opportunities. He'll be back at a club like Villa, Newcastle, West Ham sooner or later you would imagine.
Far from inconceivable that he will be back at Everton, let's be honest.
 
Not read a lot of the comments but I can guess at some of the warped opinions of some who delude themselves about Moyes' time here.

Moyes was the perfect man for the job when we brought him in. He brought stability to an often relegation threatened side, and steadily built a squad full of players that worked hard and had a bit of quality. He laid the foundations of where we are now. Moyes was the man who brought in Howard, Jagielka, Coleman, Stones, Baines, Mirallas, Naismith, Oviedo etc. He also made excellent purchases like Cahill and Arteta. We went from being a very poor side to being a top 7/8 regular. For that he deserves immense credit and I can't think of many managers who have a better record of signing such good players with the limited budget he had.

Having said all that, Moyes time at Everton had stagnated towards the end and we needed a change. His record against the sky 4 was a disgrace away from home and too often he tried to pull the wool over our eyes in accepting 7th as the best we could ever do. That's surprising given that if he had kept us around 15th, I doubt many could have argued, but it was his excellent managerial ability that got us consistently towards a European place and even got us 4th. The negativity in him was the reason he had to move on.

Martinez now has the benefit of the foundations Moyes laid, the TV money, enabling him to buy the likes of Lukaku, and an enthusiasm and positivity that can hopefully take us to the next level. He has far more faith in younger players like Stones and Barkley than Moyes ever did and best of all, he doesn't accept Everton as an also ran.

Without the financial backing of a Sheikh Mansour type billionaire we won't ever challenge for the title, but I reckon this is our best squad since the mid-late 80's and we certainly have a chance of getting in the top 4 in the next couple of seasons and challenging for the cups.

Finally on Moyes, he soured his reputation with the club and fanbase with his petulant behaviour once he moved on. Hopefully he will learn from that and apologise one day.
 
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