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Can’t bring myself to watch it tbh'Kinell, just watched the video. So grim. 13 years old
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www.thedailybeast.com
After a video of Army Lieutenant Caron Nazario being pepper-sprayed by Windsor, Virginia cops during a traffic stop went viral last week, Police Chief Rodney D. Riddle said he didn’t feel Nazario was owed an official apology. “My guys missed opportunities to verbally de-escalate,” Riddle admitted of the incident late last year that saw two officers with guns drawn barking at Nazario to get out of his car for allegedly not having a rear license tag. They pepper-spraying Nazario in the face, before realizing he did in fact have his license tag taped to the rear window of the new car. Riddle went so far as to partially blame Nazario, saying that he wished he’d “complied a whole lot earlier.” The incident is now the subject of a $1 million lawsuit against the officers involved, one of whom was fired earlier this week after an internal investigation.
Police Chief: No Apology Needed for Pepper-Spraying Black Army Lt.
He even suggested Army Lieutenant Caron Nazario was at fault for not complying earlier during the terrifying traffic stop.
I've just watched the video and it is another sad example of the way police deal with these situations. And another example of what gun culture in the US creates.
From what I have read and seen (there are a least 2 other videos other than the bodycam), it seems like Adam Toledo was with an older guy (21) who has then passed him the gun and told him to run. No doubt thinking a 13 year old with a gun is going to be treated better than a 21 year old. Toledo runs and when he realises he is getting caught he stops, tosses the gun and complies with the police command ("stop, show me your hands"). The policeman doesn't asses the situation properly, doesn't take the extra second to see the threat has gone and shoots the kid in the chest.
But I can, in this situation, understand why the policeman has acted in the way he has. It was 2.40am (in Chicago) and they had been called about a shooting and they see someone taking off and follow them down a dark alley. The kid did ultimately comply but it happens in a split second and I imagine a lot of police in that situation would have done the same.
Which is why I started this post with what I said. Gun culture plays a massive part in this specific situation and the way police will react in this kind of situation. This is not the same as the numerous cases where police react to threats that don't exist with deadly force. This is not the same as George Floyd and Daunte Wright and the numerous other examples of that.
But it is sadly another case where ultimately someone is dead at the hands of police when they shouldn't be.
From what I have read and seen (there are a least 2 other videos other than the bodycam), it seems like Adam Toledo was with an older guy (21) who has then passed him the gun and told him to run. No doubt thinking a 13 year old with a gun is going to be treated better than a 21 year old. Toledo runs and when he realises he is getting caught he stops, tosses the gun and complies with the police command ("stop, show me your hands"). The policeman doesn't asses the situation properly, doesn't take the extra second to see the threat has gone and shoots the kid in the chest.
But I can, in this situation, understand why the policeman has acted in the way he has. It was 2.40am (in Chicago) and they had been called about a shooting and they see someone taking off and follow them down a dark alley. The kid did ultimately comply but it happens in a split second and I imagine a lot of police in that situation would have done the same.
Which is why I started this post with what I said. Gun culture plays a massive part in this specific situation and the way police will react in this kind of situation. This is not the same as the numerous cases where police react to threats that don't exist with deadly force. This is not the same as George Floyd and Daunte Wright and the numerous other examples of that.
But it is sadly another case where ultimately someone is dead at the hands of police when they shouldn't be.
Bishop Thumpety-Thump
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That's because you're a disgusting excuse for a human being. Utterly embarrassing that someone like you supports Everton.
Bishop Thumpety-Thump
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This is exactly what you do on a consistent basis in your never ending quest to be such an edgy boy.
How about you react like a decent human being for once and focus on the fact that somebody died?
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Nonsense. Stop trying to create strawmen and focus on what people have actually written.
Because I'm talking about a broader subject matter.
For example, you can talk about the justification of the royal family existing when Philip dies, instead of just saying "omg rip x x x".
Don't like what I say, block me instead of making inane pointless replies.
You can find loads of those situations that go a similar way. It's usually subjective and you can find justification either way.
This is split second stuff. There's many instances of white people being killed too - look up Dylan Noble for example.
It's not useful to pretend this only happens to black people.
I don't think anyone "pretends it only happens to black people". It is that it disproportionately happens to black people and people of colour. And that black people have a very reasonable fear that police will overreact to anything they do compared to white people.
That is why black people don't always comply. But that is also why people are rightly looking for change given the amount of times this sort of thing happens when someone is complying.
Your whiteaboutery is not helping some of the sensible arguments you might have about how every situation has to be looked at on it merits and evidence.
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