Sell to buy

[Zaschrona]

We likely have money available to buy new players, but I believe we need to clear wages for both financial and FFP reasons and we really need a way smaller squad. We need a massive clear-out.


In my ideal world we should try to sell as much as 16 players. Funes Mori, Williams, Browning, Pennington, Galloway, Garbutt, Martina, Schneiderlin, McCarthy, Klaassen, Bolasie, Mirallas, Rooney, Ramirez, Tarashaj, Niasse. And a loan for Onyekuru.


Even if we sell all of these, our depth chart should look ok for the pre-season: Pickford/Stekelenburg - Coleman/Kenny, Keane/Holgate, Jagielka/Feeney, Baines/Robinson - Gueye/Besic/Baningime, Davies/Connolly/Joe Williams - Walcott/Evans, Sigurdsson/Dowell, Lookman/Vlasic - Tosun/DCL.


All of these are experienced PL players or young talents coming back from good loans from Championship or two best U23 players. They should get a chance, at the same time we should improve these few position that needs improving with PL starting quality players - CB, LB, CM and winger, plus just maybe another DM or another attacking player as rotation players.


I hope something like this is not that far from Brands' actual plan.

 

[MichaelEFC96]

I think it's the wages more than anything.

I doubt the transfer fees will be an issue but Brands doesn't strike me as the type of guy to overspend on a player.

We'll do it his way and I'm happy with that

 

[Bob Elstone]

basic good business to offload deadwood that is costing a fortune in wages and delivering nothing.

not sure how you can complain about it.

 

[BlueStevie35]

basic good business to offload deadwood that is costing a fortune in wages and delivering nothing.

not sure how you can complain about it.

Its the OP dick swinging cos he thinks he's being proved right

 

[Neiler]

basic good business to offload deadwood that is costing a fortune in wages and delivering nothing.

not sure how you can complain about it.

It’s actually bad buisness if you make a loss because ultimately it comes of the bottom line. For example buy Klassen for 25 million, sell for 15 million. You’ve lost ten million. That very simplistic.

In modern deals you are paying installments annually, so we are likely paying Ajax on the drip over three or four years, so say we are 6 million a season to them and getting three million from someone else from him, we are ultimately looseing money. Same applies to all the dead wood. Scneiderlin and Bolaise are other examples.

It’s not as straight forward as most think, clear players and everything is wonderful, we are going to be handed our backsides financially.

Additionally if we are relying on sales and saved wages for fees, it’s completly unreliable, it’s dependent on having others having interest, when they want to buy etc it’s a very unreliable way to fund a window. It’s different if you are selling a gem for a one off big fee but if you are unloading half your squad it’s completely unreliable and you aren’t in control of your plans really.

 

[Deulofeumygod]

We are selling to get rid of CRAP and will then spend whatever is necessary to buy quality squad players.

This is what we have all wanted.

 

[Lob]

When you have about 38 players in the squad many of whom are taking tons of cash from the club and giving absolutely zero in return, it is a no brainer that the squad needs to be massively reduced so as to get rid of deadwood, reduce the squad number down closer to the premier league regulation limits and thus make space for incomings for rebuilding etc.

Whatever Brands says he wants to do is fine by me. Have seen and heard enough from him already to see that he definitely knows what he is doing and knows how to rebuild us and move us forward.

He will likely be quite ruthless with the clear out too i think. Everton have been too nice for too long and Brands will have learnt long ago that you cannot be too nice and too sentimental if you want success.

Have been looking forward to this happening at Everton for yonks now. We are finally at a proper new beginning with genuine competent professionals in charge. Happy days.

COYB's !!!

 

[ilikecheese]

I am calling @MoutsGoat the winner of this thread.

That said, don't FFP rules state you can only increase your wage bill by a relatively small incremental amount? So let's say we sell 3 dead wood players at say about 120k/wk combined...but then replaced them with 1 player at 120k/wk who is actually worth it isn't that addition by subtraction? And it still leaves that incremental amout of wage increase for either more players or improved contracts?

Maybe I've got it wrong but I think demz da rulez.

 

[4737carlin]

Sell to buy is fine, we have to get the squad size down but the quality up, sell 3 bang average players and buy one decent one is fine with me

 

[St. Domingo]

If there was money why would we need to reduce the wage bill?

So we can afford to push the boat for a big name, at the minute Rooney is our highest earner on 150k a week. I think Schneids is next on 120k. Do the maths, shifting just those 2 frees up £100,000s a week

 

[fandjango]

If there was money why would we need to reduce the wage bill?

Because its too high
38 player squad many paid for way over the odds and wages over the odds too
It makes zero sense to keep adding to a wage bill which is already too high
Some of those contracts are goung to have to just run down. High wages crap player = Finch farm layabout

 

[Petit]

The number of bang average, lazy so-called professionals at the club is staggering. They sold the club down the river last season and are stealing a living. High time to get these rotten apples out of the club and leave a fresh and vibrant environment for those who deserve to stay.
Get them out!

 

[GBH73]

I think it’s quite obvious we don’t have much money. Clearly there is more due to the tv rights deal. And last year more due to the sale of lukaku but believe me there isn’t as much as many believe there is. Far had stated even as recently as yesterday that he isn’t willing to throw much money in

Think that's called the Donald Trump argument. No evidence offered, but you know, 'believe me'.

 

[deipnosophist]

So we can afford to push the boat for a big name, at the minute Rooney is our highest earner on 150k a week. I think Schneids is next on 120k. Do the maths, shifting just those 2 frees up £100,000s a week

2.7 of them

 

[WA Toffee]

It’s actually bad buisness if you make a loss because ultimately it comes of the bottom line. For example buy Klassen for 25 million, sell for 15 million. You’ve lost ten million. That very simplistic.

In modern deals you are paying installments annually, so we are likely paying Ajax on the drip over three or four years, so say we are 6 million a season to them and getting three million from someone else from him, we are ultimately looseing money. Same applies to all the dead wood. Scneiderlin and Bolaise are other examples.

It’s not as straight forward as most think, clear players and everything is wonderful, we are going to be handed our backsides financially.

Additionally if we are relying on sales and saved wages for fees, it’s completly unreliable, it’s dependent on having others having interest, when they want to buy etc it’s a very unreliable way to fund a window. It’s different if you are selling a gem for a one off big fee but if you are unloading half your squad it’s completely unreliable and you aren’t in control of your plans really.

If we lose 3m per season on a players transfer fee instead of 6m, and save 5m a year on his wages, isn’t that 8m better off per season?