billycopper
Player Valuation: £40m
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If we make the Champions League we have to expect to pay around 100k. Even with CL football, we won't be able to afford 250k but if the finances are handled properly, we should be able to have a few players on 100 - 120k. We are in a position, due to sentimentality, where we might be able to get a player in who operates way beyond that level. Stretford is the problem, he's not sentimental about Everton, he wants one last huge pay day. Just depends on how much Rooney has matured and how willing he is to stand up to him. I reckon Rooney wants to play here, I reckon we could go over 100k, the question is whether the people behind the scenes who stand to make a lot of money, will allow that to happen.
billycopper
Player Valuation: £40m
After decades of struggling with debt we've finally got ourselves into a healthy financial position (it would seem). Even if the best English player of his generation could be persuaded to join us in his prime, it would be a weight around our neck to have a player earning so much on a long contract and with his value diminishing by the season.
Rooney is on about £250k per week at United. He'd be earning three times what our top-earner is on and he'd knacker us up for financial fair play, even if we could afford him (which we can't).
I really don't expect ever to see Rooney play in the Everton jersey again. But it is interesting to speculate.
I think the most important question is not about money but about geography. How far is Rooney prepared to live from his Liverpool/Manchester base.
Is he happy to move to London ? , would he be prepared to move his family to France Germany or Spain.
If he is not prepared to move abroad then there are probably only three clubs that can afford his wages at their current level namely City,Utd and Chelsea. I think it would be difficult for him to move to City and therefore Chelsea or just maybe Arsenal could afford to sign him.
What could Everton give him? I think that because of his profile in world football Everton would be able to make him their highest paid player without upsetting their payscale too much.
The club could probably pay him 100k per week, which is probably no more than 25k per week more than the existing highest earners. I think the club could also afford to give Rooney a generous package in terms of earnings from shirt sales and other off field activities as there is little doubt that Everton with Rooney would be so much more marketable and would increase all aspects of off field income substantially. So, Everton could probably afford to pay Rooney an extraordinarily high wage even by premiership standards....but not high by the standard of what he is already earning.However ,I have just seen that Chelsea have posted a trading loss of 49m pounds, so will clubs like this continue to pay players like Rooney such extraordinary sums of money every year ?
I think the most important question is not about money but about geography. How far is Rooney prepared to live from his Liverpool/Manchester base.
Is he happy to move to London ? , would he be prepared to move his family to France Germany or Spain.
If he is not prepared to move abroad then there are probably only three clubs that can afford his wages at their current level namely City,Utd and Chelsea. I think it would be difficult for him to move to City and therefore Chelsea or just maybe Arsenal could afford to sign him.
What could Everton give him? I think that because of his profile in world football Everton would be able to make him their highest paid player without upsetting their payscale too much.
The club could probably pay him 100k per week, which is probably no more than 25k per week more than the existing highest earners. I think the club could also afford to give Rooney a generous package in terms of earnings from shirt sales and other off field activities as there is little doubt that Everton with Rooney would be so much more marketable and would increase all aspects of off field income substantially. So, Everton could probably afford to pay Rooney an extraordinarily high wage even by premiership standards....but not high by the standard of what he is already earning.However ,I have just seen that Chelsea have posted a trading loss of 49m pounds, so will clubs like this continue to pay players like Rooney such extraordinary sums of money every year ?
billycopper
Player Valuation: £40m
It wouldn't surprise me if Rooney went to City out of devilment (like Tevez), as if to say 'you played me out of position and dropped me against Real Madrid', 'you said that I was backup to Van Persie' and 'I told you to buy Ozil but you wouldn't listen', so now I'll have my revenge.
I could maybe see him going to Chelsea because of how Mourinho has courted him, but it is the strikers graveyard.
A lot of it depends on how it plays out with United too, especially whether they finish outside the CL spots, and whether their ambitions regarding signings match his own. I don't think he really wants to move but he's ambitious and he doesn't want to be carrying the team all the time.
He needs to be winning titles and playing with the best players in the world. These are his peak years and I really can't see the summit of his ambitions being top 6 and an fa cup run.
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
i wouldn't be a masive advocate of us smashing our transfer and wage structure just for one person - what would that do to our squad harmony? i'm sure he wouldn't moan, but what about someone like barkley? Will he get the impression, oh, i can leave for another club win all there is to win and then near the end of my career just walz back to everton and get payed nearly double more than anyone else.
billycopper
Player Valuation: £40m
United rejected Chelsea's £30m bid out of hand in the summer. Van Persie joined United for £24m with 12 months of his contract remaining, so that would be your ball-park transfer fee this year. Would United let him wind his contract down? I very much think not. The only way we could even remotely afford his wages was if he was on a free. But there will be a bunch of CL clubs ahead of us in the queue before it got anywhere near that point.
Rooney would have to be so determined to join us that he'd reject far more money and the chance of titles with Europe's biggest clubs by seeing out his contract. By which point he'd be about 4 months short of his 30th birthday. And a lot of people have said that they'd only take him now or never!
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Before anyone starts, dont slate me as im just posting what ive just read on Twitter (yes, i know!) off of THT's timeline. He says when Rooney was unsettled in the summer and wanting out, we enquired about him and spoke to his reps.
#GoesAndDucksForCover
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royalblue66
Player Valuation: £70m
Has he ever said he would like to play for us ?
Hes not very nice about us is he mate?
I don't think anyone is advocating spending 250K p/m on one player but if we make the CL we will have to up our wages by about 25% to attract the calibre of player to do anything in that competition. A good second half of the season and Rooney is going to have to listen to Jags, Baines, Barkley and maybe even Barry bang on about Everton and Martinez in Brazil. I can't see him joining another English club and I can't see him living abroad so it's either Moyes and lots of cash or Martinez, less cash and cult status.
blue4eva77
Yarmolenko ? Yes please
I totally agree with this.
I can't see him playing for another english team, I can't. The signs are already here that utd have had there bit of lime light and will fall away. Its been coming for a while now. I really do think rooney will jump at the chance to come back.
This basically. If Rooney wants to come here he'll have to make it clear he won't sign a new contract and won't go anywhere else.
Then it's up to man u whether to make a deal with us this summer or see him go for nothing the next.
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
Rooney, I believe, will go for two years to PSG on 250k/week. Then he might , (MIGHT), consider Everton...but I strongly doubt it.
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