Reality Check - what is successful for Allardyce?

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Most seasons we would take a draw at Anfield, so to do it with the current team, and the form in the last 2 months is a very good result. I think he deserves more credit than he's actually got, for last weekend.
 
Most seasons we would take a draw at Anfield, so to do it with the current team, and the form in the last 2 months is a very good result. I think he deserves more credit than he's actually got, for last weekend.

It was a smash and grab point. We should take it, be thankful. But as for giving credit... Im not having that. Pure Luck
 
My expectation completely depends on what level of investment he’s given.

With the squad we’ve got now, I’d expect him to make us difficult to beat & put is in a solid 7th, maybe 6th or 5th. That’s based on the standard of the league now.

If the board are serious & we can attract the next level of player, then obviously expectation goes up.
 
I don't think it is possible to have a level of expectation yet.
We don't know how many of our summer signings will turn into a silk purse instaed of the alternative. We don't know if Barkley will stay or go and we don't know if players like Coleman, Bolasie, McCarthy and Funes Mori can come back as good as they were. Of course we also don't know if he has a transfer budget.
With so many imponderables people are only guessing based on past history of managing clubs like, Sunderland, Palace and Bolton.
 
To keep us up and to hand over to a decent manager in the summer and leave the club respectfully

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...mate, respectfully, he is our level ATM, it is that simple, we cannot punch higher than SAM currently and I doubt very much our appeal to a 'decent' manager (whatever they are) will have altered by the Summer either - we are very, VERY much a work in progress. As a fanbase I sometimes wonder at the wonky sense of entitlement we sometimes have - the SoS was LONG time ago and the way some wallop on about us 'being Everton' & standards and all that jizz-jazz, blimey, makes us sound like them at times. We've done stability under DM...and we've done erratic with Bob...and as for RON, well I'm not sure what we done there...

...but if he gets results and teams don't like playing us them I'm all for that rarrrrrrr across the board.

Being nice Everton gets us nowhere.

#ONWARD
 
I don't think it is possible to have a level of expectation yet.
We don't know how many of our summer signings will turn into a silk purse instaed of the alternative. We don't know if Barkley will stay or go and we don't know if players like Coleman, Bolasie, McCarthy and Funes Mori can come back as good as they were. Of course we also don't know if he has a transfer budget.
With so many imponderables people are only guessing based on past history of managing clubs like, Sunderland, Palace and Bolton.
That's what we do in here mate, on everything really.
 
With the summer investment we were expecting Koeman to be mounting a serious challenge to the Top 4 within another 12-18 months. The striker shambles put paid to that but Sam needs to be given the budget for an awful lot more than a striker even to put us in touching distance of the Top 6.

I'm very skeptical that Moshiri and the board will just shrug their shoulders and hand Sam an equivalent amount of money and begin, in quantitative terms, another squad overhaul on the scale we saw last summer, just 6 months after such spectacular failure last time around.

We need F+CB+LB probably just to get back to being able to win "best of the rest". That is very sobering and we have come full circle since the days where Moyes could pick up a bargain and we were much more focussed with recruitment.

Sales will generate only slim pickings also. Sam has already said the aim for the short/medium term seems to be to return us to the "success" of last year.

In simple terms I think in hindsight that we tried to do too much too soon last summer and spread an unrealistic amount of signings over too modest an overall budget. Sam is correct when he says he first signing will define his time with us and there is simply no room for error. At least he knows that.

We probably need to spend another £50-£80m just getting in three decent players, to earn 7th again. I don't agree with giving Sam just 6 months, if he has a plan and we have money then he needs more time than that, its no less than what his predecessors were given.

We can probably flirt around the edges of the top 6 if we return to a more targeted and prudent transfer policy but breaking into the Top 4 seems out of the question to me unless our net spend rises significantly, bearing in mind we have no cash cows for sale in the squad any longer.
 
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...mate, respectfully, he is our level ATM, it is that simple, we cannot punch higher than SAM currently and I doubt very much our appeal to a 'decent' manager (whatever they are) will have altered by the Summer either - we are very, VERY much a work in progress. As a fanbase I sometimes wonder at the wonky sense of entitlement we sometimes have - the SoS was LONG time ago and the way some wallop on about us 'being Everton' & standards and all that jizz-jazz, blimey, makes us sound like them at times. We've done stability under DM...and we've done erratic with Bob...and as for RON, well I'm not sure what we done there...

...but if he gets results and teams don't like playing us them I'm all for that rarrrrrrr across the board.

Being nice Everton gets us nowhere.

#ONWARD
With the new owners and spending the war chest and more to come Big Sam won’t be the man to take us forward you dreamer , he will be there for this season to steady the ship
 
Success would be him leaving in June before he gets too much time to bury the club in the stone age. Granted we’ve barely left the Bronze Age but we’re proper gone if he gets two transfer windows
 
Success would be him leaving in June before he gets too much time to bury the club in the stone age. Granted we’ve barely left the Bronze Age but we’re proper gone if he gets two transfer windows
We were in the stone age before he arrived .....We now have steel ..........Hope he gets a five year contract at the end of the season ! lol
 
Over the next three season, what would you think Allardyce needs to achieve to be deemed successful?[/QUOTE]
My stamp of approval!
 
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