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In a few thousand years when apes have taken over the planet, a group of humans from a colony on Mars will crashland in Liverpool and uncover a statue of Sam Allardyce sticking out of the ground holding an earpiece aloft, maybe.
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Extremely unacceptable - Bottom half finish. Should be sacked immediately in the summer if this happens.
Unacceptable - Failure to challenge for 7th position. If we finished 8th and a point or two behind 7th, this may be ok given our horrible start to the season. A 9th or 10th placed finish should result in him losing his job in the summer.
Acceptable - 7th or a strong challenge for 7th but ultimately losing out and finishing 8th. Consider options in summer and see who could be brought in to push us on with a bit of cash invested in the squad and deadwood cleared out.
Extremely acceptable - Top 6 finish. If he can somehow achieve that he should be given an extra year on his contract until end of 2019/20 season.
Of course if we're flirting with the relegation zone come end of January you'd need to ask question as to whether he'd be able to keep us up, given that we could potentially be eight points clear tonight and have a favourable fixture at the weekend.
Extremely unacceptable - Bottom half finish. Should be sacked immediately in the summer if this happens.
Unacceptable - Failure to challenge for 7th position. If we finished 8th and a point or two behind 7th, this may be ok given our horrible start to the season. A 9th or 10th placed finish should result in him losing his job in the summer.
Acceptable - 7th or a strong challenge for 7th but ultimately losing out and finishing 8th. Consider options in summer and see who could be brought in to push us on with a bit of cash invested in the squad and deadwood cleared out.
Extremely acceptable - Top 6 finish. If he can somehow achieve that he should be given an extra year on his contract until end of 2019/20 season.
Of course if we're flirting with the relegation zone come end of January you'd need to ask question as to whether he'd be able to keep us up, given that we could potentially be eight points clear tonight and have a favourable fixture at the weekend.
Efcjake
Player Valuation: £80m
This seems about right
twoblue
Player Valuation: £35m
I would be calm with him taking a second season if we finish top half. A full transfer window and a preseason would let him stamp some authority.
Happier with fat sam than silva to be honest.
I’m glad Lewis’s window isn’t available cos that where my backside would be if we finish 7th. Bar being set a little too high by the naysayers in my opinion. Anyway hope the man causes a few to choke
9 points behind the orcs, who look badly found out after we gave clubs a blueprint on how to get a result against them on Sunday.
It’s on.
It’s on.
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
7th is our aim for the season in the league imo. I know we were miles behind, but teams like burnley and watford won't keep it up all season. We finished 15 points ahead of 8th last season and that was soton who will be battling relegation this season, so regardless of how far away we were, 7th is definitely still get-table and should be expected. We're going to get nowhere with ambition if we think top half is our aim because of 8 or 9 bad games.
So if Sam was here from the beginning of the season you would be expecting us to be challenging City I dare say. The man is doing fine and anything above 18th will do me. As it is he will likely far exceed my expectations
At this point anything below 8th should be a firing, as we are only a few points out of that spot. While 7th still is a little ways, the reality is we are also only 9 points from 4th. One of those 4 teams in 4-7 right now are going to falter between now and the rest of the season, so if hes doing a good job managing along with new players in January, I still think 7th is a realistic goal and maybe gets him another look.
What? A man pulls us up by the bootstraps and you want to sack him for not taking it further?
Osamabindiesel
Player Valuation: £70m
A lot depends on whether Burnley keep up their fluke season or not. I think they will start to fall off as the season wears on, but they have been impressive so far.
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
i thought we should be finishing 5th or 6th ... when i thought we were buying giroud. Then we decided to not bother with buying a striker and i didn't know what to expect. I expected problems, but not for them to be as bad as they turned out to be. Nobody could have foreseen that, but that's behind us and we're looking up. We're 9 points behind a burnley team we finished 21 points ahead of last season, so we can definitely aim to finish above them and all those below them imo (with the exception of arsenal who have had too big of a head start over us for a team of their calibre).
The Blue Cat
Player Valuation: £225k
Don't think our rotten start can be underestimated in looking at what it'll take to move up the table significantly, so my thinking is:
Below Expectations/Minimum Acceptable - 12th - I'd not be happy if we slipped places from where we are now; if that happens we've had a mare of a January transfer window and performances have not improved.
Just Good Enough - 10th - After the rotten start we've had, we're now at 10th; we *should* improve on this, but if we don't, I don't think I could fairly lay the blame at Allardyce's feet - but I'd expect 7th (at least) in 18/19 if this is what we end up settling for.
Realistic; what should be our aim - 8th - With improved performances all round and a couple of key positions shored up in January, we should press on. We can overhaul Watford; Leicester are our real target for the season - We need to beat them (doable if we improve) and win a game or two more than them. Doable with the right buys.
Surpassing Expectations - 7th - This is targetting overhauling one of Burnley, Arsenal or Liverpool. Could be a bit optimistic looking at the points on the board, but we should be aiming to do it. Burnley could well go off the boil and be ours for the taking. Could beat Arsenal - again, with the right buys.
For 18/19 that becomes:
Minimum: 8th
Just Good Enough: 7th
Realistic: 6th - we must have a better summer of buys. Splash the cash, but where it counts this time. Looking at you, Steve Walsh.
Surpassing: 5th
We're having our "Spurs immediately post-Bale" season, 18/19 needs to be our "Spurs becoming Champions League regulars" season.
Below Expectations/Minimum Acceptable - 12th - I'd not be happy if we slipped places from where we are now; if that happens we've had a mare of a January transfer window and performances have not improved.
Just Good Enough - 10th - After the rotten start we've had, we're now at 10th; we *should* improve on this, but if we don't, I don't think I could fairly lay the blame at Allardyce's feet - but I'd expect 7th (at least) in 18/19 if this is what we end up settling for.
Realistic; what should be our aim - 8th - With improved performances all round and a couple of key positions shored up in January, we should press on. We can overhaul Watford; Leicester are our real target for the season - We need to beat them (doable if we improve) and win a game or two more than them. Doable with the right buys.
Surpassing Expectations - 7th - This is targetting overhauling one of Burnley, Arsenal or Liverpool. Could be a bit optimistic looking at the points on the board, but we should be aiming to do it. Burnley could well go off the boil and be ours for the taking. Could beat Arsenal - again, with the right buys.
For 18/19 that becomes:
Minimum: 8th
Just Good Enough: 7th
Realistic: 6th - we must have a better summer of buys. Splash the cash, but where it counts this time. Looking at you, Steve Walsh.
Surpassing: 5th
We're having our "Spurs immediately post-Bale" season, 18/19 needs to be our "Spurs becoming Champions League regulars" season.
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