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Chang Elephant
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I've seen him give 50% plenty of times
brett angels left foot
Player Valuation: £750k
Rubbish.
can't believe some are actually ****ging off his performance. he was once again deployed on the wing, not his natural position, and he still played better than arteta has played all season. went missing at times but i still thought he had a decent game at least
chriswho
Player Valuation: £5m
Agreed 100%.
I see Osman a lot like I see Neville on our team. Though few on here "rate" them, the team is almost always more cohesive and passionate when they play. Both of them bring a whole lot more than their "God-given talent" to the pitch every day and I'm always happy to see Neville's leadership and Ossie's passion in our squad. Until one of our "more talented" players picks up those torches from them, they are valuable in the squad.
DionDublin
Player Valuation: £1.5m
no footballer should ever play for non footballing reasons.
phil neville is abysmal
osman is average in the middle, but moyes still plays him out wide and he is useless in such a position.
chriswho
Player Valuation: £5m
i know you are just trolling DionDublin, but I'll still respond. What I am saying is that Neville and Osman are playing for "footballing" reasons - as form on the pitch is far more important than a players rating/ceiling.
Though I rate Arteta much higher than Osman, and Heitinga higher than Neville, such "ratings" mean nothing if it doesn't translate into form on the pitch (individually or for the team). And in those comparisons, right now, I'd much rather have Osman and Neville playing as they both seem to have some nice benefits in lifting the team.
If Arteta find's his form and desire to play for the blues again, I'm sure he will get better and I would much rather he be playing than Osman. Right now, that is just not the case though (hoping it changes tomorrow). When you see Arteta half-assing it around the pitch and demanding to take freekicks from Baines, and not pullling his weight, it is detrimental to the team. On the other hand, when you see osman running like a madman, sticking challenges, and showing his effort and passion, it brings up the whole team.
So while I agree that no footballer should play for non-footballing reasons, the things like leadership and passion ARE footballing reasons in my opinion.
Though I rate Arteta much higher than Osman, and Heitinga higher than Neville, such "ratings" mean nothing if it doesn't translate into form on the pitch (individually or for the team). And in those comparisons, right now, I'd much rather have Osman and Neville playing as they both seem to have some nice benefits in lifting the team.
If Arteta find's his form and desire to play for the blues again, I'm sure he will get better and I would much rather he be playing than Osman. Right now, that is just not the case though (hoping it changes tomorrow). When you see Arteta half-assing it around the pitch and demanding to take freekicks from Baines, and not pullling his weight, it is detrimental to the team. On the other hand, when you see osman running like a madman, sticking challenges, and showing his effort and passion, it brings up the whole team.
So while I agree that no footballer should play for non-footballing reasons, the things like leadership and passion ARE footballing reasons in my opinion.
Chang Elephant
Forum God
What about when you see Osman do **** all away from home for six months at a time, or is there some collective amnesia going on about this?
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best little spaniard
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Ok then, let's sort this
Zed & Chang Elephants memory=Osman on the right.
Everyone elses=Osman in the middle.
Comprende?
Zed & Chang Elephants memory=Osman on the right.
Everyone elses=Osman in the middle.
Comprende?
zed
Player Valuation: £25m
whoaa saphire! thats blatant post rigging right there, alls i said was ozzie is a sound player and the team benefits with him in, but agreed i`m no coach or tactician
Tennessee Blue Mike
Player Valuation: £50m
Oops that's it. Ossie didn't play so we didn't win.
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Bit of a hyperbole, I think Distin might push him for that.
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