Uncomfortably numb.

Evo2901

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As a 29 year old, I’ve had my fair share of disappointments as an Evertonian, most notably us not winning a single trophy during my lifetime. This season has now been added to that long list.

After showing promising signs throughout the majority of this season, we decided to just stop playing 7 weeks ago and completely give up on our aspirations of Europe.

At the start of the season most fans weren’t even expecting us to get European football. However, the manager and players have dangled the carrot all season long to the point that we’re now bitterly disappointed that we’ve missed out and why shouldn’t we be? Lesser (better run) clubs such as Brighton and Bournemouth have qualified whilst newly promoted Sunderland have also got a spot in the Europa League. Fumbling a European spot was completely unforgivable IMHO.

Add this to clubs like Newcastle, Aston Villa and Crystal Palace all winning trophies in the past few seasons whilst we go out in the early stages and it’s easy to see why we’re all so frustrated. Unfortunately I’m starting to become numb to it and my hopes of us ever being successful again are quickly fading.

For too long now Everton have been ran like a pub team. The fact that a change of ownership hasn’t changed mindsets within the club and the local media is deeply concerning.

If TFG are truly ambitious they would get rid of Moyes this week and replace him with a manager who can sell us a vision, develop young players and give us something to shout about along the way. Unfortunately though they’ll more than likely stick with Moyes, let him burn through another £150m+, sack him mid season and replace him another undesirable manager to get us out the crap.

‘Stability’ is just another word for stagnation.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.
 
Understand your frustration.

Personally I think they will carry on with Moyes as manager.

There is definitely a culture problem tho, it’s as if nothing has changed. Reading the CEO’s comments, it was as if it written by someone under the previous custodians, it was bizarre and cringe. The manner of which he had spoken about things , safe from relegation by Christmas and happily dissatisfied, you would expect that from a promoted club who went through a dodgy spell but are back on track.

That’s not a club with genuine ambitions to win things. No big club with aspirations to compete at the very highest levels should talk like that.

Your feelings are understandable and I doubt you are alone in them either. Voting with your time and money I feel is always the best way to show your feelings but the club know that won’t happen, not on a substantial level anyway.
 
As a 29 year old, I’ve had my fair share of disappointments as an Evertonian, most notably us not winning a single trophy during my lifetime. This season has now been added to that long list.

After showing promising signs throughout the majority of this season, we decided to just stop playing 7 weeks ago and completely give up on our aspirations of Europe.

At the start of the season most fans weren’t even expecting us to get European football. However, the manager and players have dangled the carrot all season long to the point that we’re now bitterly disappointed that we’ve missed out and why shouldn’t we be? Lesser (better run) clubs such as Brighton and Bournemouth have qualified whilst newly promoted Sunderland have also got a spot in the Europa League. Fumbling a European spot was completely unforgivable IMHO.

Add this to clubs like Newcastle, Aston Villa and Crystal Palace all winning trophies in the past few seasons whilst we go out in the early stages and it’s easy to see why we’re all so frustrated. Unfortunately I’m starting to become numb to it and my hopes of us ever being successful again are quickly fading.

For too long now Everton have been ran like a pub team. The fact that a change of ownership hasn’t changed mindsets within the club and the local media is deeply concerning.

If TFG are truly ambitious they would get rid of Moyes this week and replace him with a manager who can sell us a vision, develop young players and give us something to shout about along the way. Unfortunately though they’ll more than likely stick with Moyes, let him burn through another £150m+, sack him mid season and replace him another undesirable manager to get us out the crap.

‘Stability’ is just another word for stagnation.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.

Wish there was a way to show this to TFG or Kinnear.

I'm the same age as you and you've articulated my current feelings about Everton perfectly. Younger fans need to be able to dream or what you'll end up with is total apathy.

If we were to flirt with relegation again for example I'm unsure that the fanbase would be able to drag us over the line again in the same way. And if we fall back into the yearly managerial replacement cycle then that's the only way we're going.

A show of ambition would go a long way to boosting the morale of a lot of fans.
 
There's nothing good about being a blue nowadays. At least in past we had likable players, Cahill, Arteta, Baines, Howard, and certain others who did their best, plus we were at GP and we were "peoples club". Charity extended to community not players. When you have had 10 years of crap players, being paid huge amounts to play well, at least when they feel like it, you lose interest. We go out of cups, particularly league cup in early rounds, get knocked out in 3rd or 4th round of FA cup. Lose to RS reserves under St Ancellotti, when RS didn't even want to win. We made it ridiculously easy for Spurs to stay up, if other sides were as unprofessional as us we would of gone down in past. If I wad West Ham I'd being complaining to FA and Premier League. No efforts on goal until stoppage time. Villa had nothing to play for, yet beat City. I can tolerate us being outplayed, I can tolerate us being unlucky, but I can't tolerate this endless throwing of games. Palace actually try to win games against City, Arsenal, RS and United, Brentford went to Anfield and had a go. We are beaten, before we even walk on pitch.
 
There is no pain, you are receding
A distant ship, smoke on the horizon
You are only coming through in waves
Your lips move, but I can't hear what you're saying
When I was a child, I had a fever
My hands felt just like two balloons
Now I've got that feeling once again
I can't explain, you would not understand
This is not how I am

I have become happily dissatisfied
 
As a 29 year old, I’ve had my fair share of disappointments as an Evertonian, most notably us not winning a single trophy during my lifetime. This season has now been added to that long list.

After showing promising signs throughout the majority of this season, we decided to just stop playing 7 weeks ago and completely give up on our aspirations of Europe.

At the start of the season most fans weren’t even expecting us to get European football. However, the manager and players have dangled the carrot all season long to the point that we’re now bitterly disappointed that we’ve missed out and why shouldn’t we be? Lesser (better run) clubs such as Brighton and Bournemouth have qualified whilst newly promoted Sunderland have also got a spot in the Europa League. Fumbling a European spot was completely unforgivable IMHO.

Add this to clubs like Newcastle, Aston Villa and Crystal Palace all winning trophies in the past few seasons whilst we go out in the early stages and it’s easy to see why we’re all so frustrated. Unfortunately I’m starting to become numb to it and my hopes of us ever being successful again are quickly fading.

For too long now Everton have been ran like a pub team. The fact that a change of ownership hasn’t changed mindsets within the club and the local media is deeply concerning.

If TFG are truly ambitious they would get rid of Moyes this week and replace him with a manager who can sell us a vision, develop young players and give us something to shout about along the way. Unfortunately though they’ll more than likely stick with Moyes, let him burn through another £150m+, sack him mid season and replace him another undesirable manager to get us out the crap.

‘Stability’ is just another word for stagnation.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.
We're no closer to any kind of success than we were 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 or 30 years' ago. There is a vein of ineptitude that has run through the club in these years, which is continually mined by whomever is in charge,whether it be the owners or manager. The reasons are many, we all know what they are. The two that irks me the most are :

The sentimentality that is rife throughout the club, for all the wrong reasons. We can all love our history, and the players that made it, but rewarding mediocrity because they've been here a long time, and they 'get Everton' is no way to run a business. It rewards the also-ran rather than the excellent, the player happy to go with the flow rather than one who seeks to improve.

There's also it seems within the club, an almost tangible fear to improve, to set goals and expect to achieve them, to appoint people with a vision. Not vision as a buzzword, but people with a plan, willing to expound their vision within the club and to the supporters. Instead, we get managers with no ambition, no distinctive attacking plan, or indeed very little plan indeed. There is no cohesive strategy to improve season by season apart from meaningless mission statements.

'If you know your history' is now a tired anachronism. Tired, that's what the fans are, tired of the nothingness, the stupor, the miasma, the total irrelevance of Everton. And then we hear what that failure of a manager came out with tonight and we despair, because, deep down, we all know nothing will change.

And for my next joke....
 
Bournemouth is an interesting one, their manager is leaving and yet the team carried on as normal. I watched them against City, they played with no issues, didn’t look look the slightest bit arsed City were looking to go top, played like they are just another team in the league and they tried to win the game.

Showed the right attitude throughout the season and were rewarded for it.

We have a habit of a poor attitude and blame supporters for being negative as a result of it. Vicious circle in three decades.
 

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