I'd add to this that if it's your ball you can do it for example at the corner flag. If you didn't touch it last then it would be obstruction.
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mmmmsnouts
Player Valuation: £40m
True... I meant when it’s like a 3 or 4 goal cushion and both sides know the game is decided. It’s a little foolish to make them run around for another 8 minutes.
ScoobyBlue
Player Valuation: £500k
100% this.
I've always advocated that if a foul is given and the player is injured and has to go off the pitch, the offender should go off with him, regardless of which offender who committed the foul, including the keeper. If that player can't re-join and has to be subbed then the offender stays off the pitch until the sub is ready and the ref allows him on the pitch. You would have to have a time limit on readying your sub, say 2 minutes, or the offender (i'm thinking keeper here) can be waived back on. The fourth official can handle the timekeeping for this.
Secondly, just don't have injury time. When the 90 are up........game over. Most people get off with 3-4 minutes of normal time to go anyway.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal....mc_id=tmg_share_tw&__twitter_impression=true
Football's lawmakers to discuss overhaul of handball rules while penalty rebounds could also be eliminated
Football’s lawmakers are expected to discuss a radical change to the handball rule to clarify it and take out the word “deliberately”.
The International FA Board (Ifab) advisory panels will also examine a raft of other potential measures, including altering the way penalties are taken.
A surprising proposal is expected to be put up for discussion which would mean that penalties are “one shot” – and that there will be no rebounds if the kick is saved or strikes the goal-frame and bounces back into play.
It would mean that goals such as the one scored by Paul Pogba for Manchester United against Everton in the Premier League last Sunday would be ruled out. In that match Pogba’s penalty was saved by goalkeeper Jordan Pickford, but the midfielder scored from the rebound.
If such a change was made it would mean that the ball would be deemed “dead” once the keeper had blocked the penalty and a goal-kick would be awarded. It would be the same as in a shoot-out and would do away with the problem of players encroaching.
The change would be controversial and comes under the second category of proposals to be discussed at the meeting in London on Monday and Tuesday. The Ifab panel comprises the four home associations, which have one vote each, and Fifa, which has four votes. Law changes require at least six votes but next week’s meeting is only to decide what to take forward to the organisation’s annual general meeting in March.
There appears to be a far greater consensus that the handball law is unsatisfactory. In Fifa’s Laws of the Game under Law 12, Fouls and Misconduct, it is stated that a free-kick or penalty is awarded if a player “handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)”.
What counts as “deliberately” has continually stirred up debate. There is no description of what constitutes deliberate handball, which places the responsibility on the referee and his assistants.
The wording in the FA’s rules adds that “distance between the opponent and ball” should be taken into consideration but the onus on what constitutes deliberate still lies with the officials.
It appears that the change, if put forward, would remove the word “deliberately” and define handball as to do with the hand or arm being in an unnatural position at the point of contact. Agreeing what is an unnatural position might also be tricky but one proposal is for it to be defined as if the ball strikes the arm above shoulder height. It would also be an offence if the ball hits the arm below shoulder height but in an unnatural position, which could be defined as more than eight o’clock or four o’clock from the body. Any goal scored after striking the arm of an attacking player would be disallowed.
Substitutions during injury time should be stopped or limited to try to avoid time-wasting CREDIT: PA
One issue that will be raised is the concern that attacking players could aim the ball at the arm of a defender to gain an advantage.
There are two Ifab advisory panels – one football and one technical. The football panel is made up of former players, former and current coaches, technical directors, the Federation of Professional Footballers (FIFPro) and experts from confederations. The technical panel is formed by former referees from all the confederations.
It has already been revealed that the Ifab advisory panels will discuss whether substitutions during injury time should be stopped or limited to try to avoid time-wasting. There is a fear that it has almost become a tactic for managers.
Another measure under consideration is that any player who is substituted has to leave the pitch via the closest touchline rather than walk to the technical area. Some managers waste time by telling players to go as far away as possible from the dug-out before they are taken off, and then to head for the dugout as slowly as possible.
Football's lawmakers to discuss overhaul of handball rules while penalty rebounds could also be eliminated
Football’s lawmakers are expected to discuss a radical change to the handball rule to clarify it and take out the word “deliberately”.
The International FA Board (Ifab) advisory panels will also examine a raft of other potential measures, including altering the way penalties are taken.
A surprising proposal is expected to be put up for discussion which would mean that penalties are “one shot” – and that there will be no rebounds if the kick is saved or strikes the goal-frame and bounces back into play.
It would mean that goals such as the one scored by Paul Pogba for Manchester United against Everton in the Premier League last Sunday would be ruled out. In that match Pogba’s penalty was saved by goalkeeper Jordan Pickford, but the midfielder scored from the rebound.
If such a change was made it would mean that the ball would be deemed “dead” once the keeper had blocked the penalty and a goal-kick would be awarded. It would be the same as in a shoot-out and would do away with the problem of players encroaching.
The change would be controversial and comes under the second category of proposals to be discussed at the meeting in London on Monday and Tuesday. The Ifab panel comprises the four home associations, which have one vote each, and Fifa, which has four votes. Law changes require at least six votes but next week’s meeting is only to decide what to take forward to the organisation’s annual general meeting in March.
There appears to be a far greater consensus that the handball law is unsatisfactory. In Fifa’s Laws of the Game under Law 12, Fouls and Misconduct, it is stated that a free-kick or penalty is awarded if a player “handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)”.
What counts as “deliberately” has continually stirred up debate. There is no description of what constitutes deliberate handball, which places the responsibility on the referee and his assistants.
The wording in the FA’s rules adds that “distance between the opponent and ball” should be taken into consideration but the onus on what constitutes deliberate still lies with the officials.
It appears that the change, if put forward, would remove the word “deliberately” and define handball as to do with the hand or arm being in an unnatural position at the point of contact. Agreeing what is an unnatural position might also be tricky but one proposal is for it to be defined as if the ball strikes the arm above shoulder height. It would also be an offence if the ball hits the arm below shoulder height but in an unnatural position, which could be defined as more than eight o’clock or four o’clock from the body. Any goal scored after striking the arm of an attacking player would be disallowed.
One issue that will be raised is the concern that attacking players could aim the ball at the arm of a defender to gain an advantage.
There are two Ifab advisory panels – one football and one technical. The football panel is made up of former players, former and current coaches, technical directors, the Federation of Professional Footballers (FIFPro) and experts from confederations. The technical panel is formed by former referees from all the confederations.
It has already been revealed that the Ifab advisory panels will discuss whether substitutions during injury time should be stopped or limited to try to avoid time-wasting. There is a fear that it has almost become a tactic for managers.
Another measure under consideration is that any player who is substituted has to leave the pitch via the closest touchline rather than walk to the technical area. Some managers waste time by telling players to go as far away as possible from the dug-out before they are taken off, and then to head for the dugout as slowly as possible.
Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
I like the dead ball after a penalty save/woodwork its a great idea.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal....mc_id=tmg_share_tw&__twitter_impression=true
Football's lawmakers to discuss overhaul of handball rules while penalty rebounds could also be eliminated
Football’s lawmakers are expected to discuss a radical change to the handball rule to clarify it and take out the word “deliberately”.
The International FA Board (Ifab) advisory panels will also examine a raft of other potential measures, including altering the way penalties are taken.
A surprising proposal is expected to be put up for discussion which would mean that penalties are “one shot” – and that there will be no rebounds if the kick is saved or strikes the goal-frame and bounces back into play.
It would mean that goals such as the one scored by Paul Pogba for Manchester United against Everton in the Premier League last Sunday would be ruled out. In that match Pogba’s penalty was saved by goalkeeper Jordan Pickford, but the midfielder scored from the rebound.
If such a change was made it would mean that the ball would be deemed “dead” once the keeper had blocked the penalty and a goal-kick would be awarded. It would be the same as in a shoot-out and would do away with the problem of players encroaching.
The change would be controversial and comes under the second category of proposals to be discussed at the meeting in London on Monday and Tuesday. The Ifab panel comprises the four home associations, which have one vote each, and Fifa, which has four votes. Law changes require at least six votes but next week’s meeting is only to decide what to take forward to the organisation’s annual general meeting in March.
There appears to be a far greater consensus that the handball law is unsatisfactory. In Fifa’s Laws of the Game under Law 12, Fouls and Misconduct, it is stated that a free-kick or penalty is awarded if a player “handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)”.
What counts as “deliberately” has continually stirred up debate. There is no description of what constitutes deliberate handball, which places the responsibility on the referee and his assistants.
The wording in the FA’s rules adds that “distance between the opponent and ball” should be taken into consideration but the onus on what constitutes deliberate still lies with the officials.
It appears that the change, if put forward, would remove the word “deliberately” and define handball as to do with the hand or arm being in an unnatural position at the point of contact. Agreeing what is an unnatural position might also be tricky but one proposal is for it to be defined as if the ball strikes the arm above shoulder height. It would also be an offence if the ball hits the arm below shoulder height but in an unnatural position, which could be defined as more than eight o’clock or four o’clock from the body. Any goal scored after striking the arm of an attacking player would be disallowed.
Substitutions during injury time should be stopped or limited to try to avoid time-wasting CREDIT: PA
One issue that will be raised is the concern that attacking players could aim the ball at the arm of a defender to gain an advantage.
There are two Ifab advisory panels – one football and one technical. The football panel is made up of former players, former and current coaches, technical directors, the Federation of Professional Footballers (FIFPro) and experts from confederations. The technical panel is formed by former referees from all the confederations.
It has already been revealed that the Ifab advisory panels will discuss whether substitutions during injury time should be stopped or limited to try to avoid time-wasting. There is a fear that it has almost become a tactic for managers.
Another measure under consideration is that any player who is substituted has to leave the pitch via the closest touchline rather than walk to the technical area. Some managers waste time by telling players to go as far away as possible from the dug-out before they are taken off, and then to head for the dugout as slowly as possible.
You would be passed off if you were going into the final game of a season to win the league and lost on goal difference because you abandoned the game in the 82nd minute because you were already 3-0 up. If this rule ever did come in , we should bring bobby back, would actually win a few matches , usually 2-3 goals up at 80mins only to draw or lose the game
mmmmsnouts
Player Valuation: £40m
GD is not a big deal in MLS. It’s not even the first tiebreaker for the playoff seedings.
They do head to head or something? The yanks are a weird bunch, don’t see why they have to change everything tbh.
mrb85
Player Valuation: £35m
What's so good about it? Anything that reduces the number of goals being scored can't be that good. Remember too why a penalty is given -- it's to punish the defending team. So why give them more chance of not being punished? It would perhaps be marginally more acceptable as a ruling if the game was still allowed to go on but the penalty taker him/her self could not score straight from the rebound; the logic of this being that he has an unfair advantage in being closest to goal.
SiEdmo
Player Valuation: £10m
yeah I think that would be spot on, he has to just step aside like when they know their offside and leave it type thing
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
I do as well, make a PK just like a PK in a shoot out, one strike in or out
You know what rules need to be endorced? Foul throws and keepers holding onto the ball too long in the box.
Oh yeah, very good, get rid of rebounds after we get beat by one
AndyC
Player Valuation: £70m
Interesting notion this
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