Moyes - should he stay or should he go?

[Woolly Blue]

Review how it's gone at the end of the season, but Moyes' ceiling is lower than where I want us to be so I'd be calling it a day then.

 

[Groucho]

Defending our two CFs on their pens did not help his cause...;.

He’s hardly going to slate them in public is he?

 

[Joey66]

He’s hardly going to slate them in public is he?

no but he could have just past no comment - or stated they were practising pass backs ....

 

[Delargeinho]

I think it's been really obvious this year that the squad players outside our best 11 are mostly not premier league standard. When they are given chances, they perform terribly. We've seen that in the last week and the pathetic cup loss at Wolves. So really what choice has the manager got? SHould he give more minutes to players who are performing badly?

The big problems are that our recruitment was dire in the summer, and money was wasted. And we don't have a good enough squad for a long season. We need a clear out of all our squad players and to take squad building seriously. If someone isn't good enough for other teams then don't sign them.

That's the problem and the consequences of years of mismanagement that there was so much going to fix and probably we were not the most attractive club either after recent years despite getting someone like Grealish.

Aznou clearly was one player that must be questioned, why we haven't seem him more before. Liked his effort that I often miss with players that have rare game time here.

 

[Toffeeforme]

I tend to look at this period as time to once and for all decide who will stay and who will be gone for next season. Every dark cloud has a silver lining and we can take advantage of not having to be concerned about relegation and just keep playing those who are available rather than any new signings in this window. Unless someone who is proven and affordable becomes available. Not just for the sake of it. Let the likes of Barry Beto McNeil Mycolenko Diblling Alcaraz Patterson and others play themselves out of the club. A lot of those have had long enough, the results are in, but for the likes of Dibling Barry and Aznou give them loads of game time until the end of the year then decide.

 

[Houghty19]

He’s hardly going to slate them in public is he?

Surely nothing wrong with saying 3 poor penalties cos all of us have eyes and saw that, it's not then having a direct go at the strikers but is telling the truth, i wouldn't expect him to come out with something like "what do you expect from those two useless lumps".

 

[Neiler]

I’d be surprised if they let him spend any more of their money given the bulk of the £100m looks like it’s been poorly spent. KDH being the only positive.

I think he will get money but see recruitment being issue and a source of confrontation.

The perfect player for Moyes, is 27-31. For the administration and other members of the recruitment team they are planning for the next five to ten years.

The difficulty is this - Moyes want Soucek, he rings him, says yes I’ll come but want a three year deal on, 100k +. Moyes wants it - he goes to the club and club says no, no resale value and you have an 18 month contract - if we bring another manager in 18 months or less - then they are stuck with 30+ Soucek for a year and half in big money. The club then brings him someone like Rohl - who fit the profile he wants but also the club criteria.

I think that above dynamic comes to a head at some point - I think we see it Rohl, Aznou, Charly, Dibling not getting a lot of mins. While 27-32 year old KDH and Grealish being canonised.

Moyes has assent on all players - that doesn’t necessarily mean they are him top picks.

There are power plays. At some point TFG are going to look at the effectiveness of what was spend on Barry, Dibling, Rohl, Charly and Aznou, either the administration will be held accountable or the manager.

It’s a curious dynamic, Moyes wast the administrations first choice - Graham Potter was, TFG intervened and put Moyes in place, Moyes is very much a TFG man/pick, how that works either way those operationally in the club is curious dynamic and one I see coming to head at some point and as I say - probably due to recruitment.

 

[st.domingo]

I have mentioned that in another post . Hand on heart do you think he is likely to replicate the feat ? If not then he should go and make way for a better man.

Hand on heart I have no idea. At the moment it looks grim but that’s a combination of factors, not all of which are down to the manager. It will probably look different again in May. Will it be enough for them to let him carry on at that point? Time will tell.

 

[PeterGet]

But none of them were good ! Other than Carlo ,I hope you had just overlooked him .
He has better stats than every manager that has been relegated ever but that is just a fact that means nothing and has no relation to the state of the team he selects .He picks players like Dwight who trains well but when he has played this year he is mind numbing ,Alcaraz has played so many bad balls I fear he is not injured just being readied for sale ( that could be wishful thinking ) but he trains well ! Now we have seen Aznou who is not at all the finished article we can see there is life in the u21's but we all know Moyes would not have willingly played him .

I purposely said “excellent” results rather than best, Carlo quite correctly is slightly better. Carlo is one of the best managers of all time and as much as I like Moyes, he is simply not on that level. I don’t accept that all the other managers are just rubbish, they just couldn’t get a tune from the team.

Selection wise is tricky, as I mentioned I have no idea what is happening in training. David Moyes is a successful manager and I think we must trust his judgement, which I think is backed up by the stats.

I want to see what Everton will be like with better players under Moyes. I’m bored with the constant relegation battles and management changes and moaning.

Back the manager and we’ll succeed

 

[JLW]

Review how it's gone at the end of the season, but Moyes' ceiling is lower than where I want us to be so I'd be calling it a day then.

This.

He has moved us forward from where we were but there comes a time when we have to get better than him, for me that's this summer.

 

[preposterousvelios]

I think he will get money but see recruitment being issue and a source of confrontation.

The perfect player for Moyes, is 27-31. For the administration and other members of the recruitment team they are planning for the next five to ten years.

The difficulty is this - Moyes want Soucek, he rings him, says yes I’ll come but want a three year deal on, 100k +. Moyes wants it - he goes to the club and club says no, no resale value and you have an 18 month contract - if we bring another manager in 18 months or less - then they are stuck with 30+ Soucek for a year and half in big money. The club then brings him someone like Rohl - who fit the profile he wants but also the club criteria.

I think that above dynamic comes to a head at some point - I think we see it Rohl, Aznou, Charly, Dibling not getting a lot of mins. While 27-32 year old KDH and Grealish being canonised.

Moyes has assent on all players - that doesn’t necessarily mean they are him top picks.

There are power plays. At some point TFG are going to look at the effectiveness of what was spend on Barry, Dibling, Rohl, Charly and Aznou, either the administration will be held accountable or the manager.

It’s a curious dynamic, Moyes wast the administrations first choice - Graham Potter was, TFG intervened and put Moyes in place, Moyes is very much a TFG man/pick, how that works either way those operationally in the club is curious dynamic and one I see coming to head at some point and as I say - probably due to recruitment.

The strategy seems muddled and if I had to guess I would say TFG probably had to compromise a few things to get him to take the job.

The word from everyone including Moyes has always been that he's here to stabilise for club for a year or two. Doesn't make any sense for Moyes to be making the calls on transfers when this is the case, especially if he's wanting to bring in more senior players for the next couple years who have a limited shelf life and no resale value.

 

[cahill 17]

He’ll probably see his contract out which has got 18 months left is it,then we’ll move on I’m guessing, there’ll probably be questions asked though by the owners I imagine,is it one win in 7 now

 

[davids]

Got a lot of splitters, after the games we've witnessed the go to reaction is to want him out,but then I take a breath and then look at the players and wonder did he tell them to go out and look like they aren't arsed. The Summer window has begun to look like a lot of money was wasted on a couple of duds,but then how much input did he have in the recruitment. Hopefully after AFCON things will look brighter,but then you look at the fixture list and you can pick the games we'll lose. I want those days over ASAP.

 

[Efcjake]

I suspect if the poll had been:

stay?
go?
dont know (or stay until the end of the season)

the result would have been very revealing.

As it is though, 4 out of every 10 posters on here have seen enough right now to want him gone asap.

The jig should be up for Moyes if we dont get top ten....which is very achievable.

He down about 20% from September

Moyes Poll

September 24, 2025

After the first half of the derby, and last night's debacle, what's your opinion on the dithering one's future. The natives are getting restless. SAY IT!

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• david moyes
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Doesn't seem like enough to get rid.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

The people clamouring for Moyes to stay would be the same as the Palace fans calling for Hodgson to stay on at Palace.

Move on now, Moyes is just another Dyche or Fat Sam but he comes with Bluetooth. Get rid of the negative dinosaur

Yeah, because they did so much better under De Boer.