Moshiri's Mess???

[kenada_blue]

Backed his managers. Building a new stadium.

Proper mess.

 

[MikeH72]

You should be very glad that Moshiri failed in his attempt to get Silva after the sacking of Koeman. The thought of Silva trying to sort out the mess left by Koeman is truly terrifying. He'd have taken us down.

Said this at the time when “any decent manager could have this squad 7th” was the party line. Handing Silva THAT squad last season would have been very dangerous.

 

[kenada_blue]

...that’s an assumption, Dave. It’s not necessarilly fact to say Koeman determined ‘who it was spent on in the vast majority of cases’. My view is that Koeman and Walsh brought players in separately without any joined-up thinking or strategy. It’s why we ended up with so much waste and an unbalanced squad.

Moshiri’s culpability was appointing Walsh and Koeman, but not with backing them. Saying that, Walsh should’ve gone when it became obvious he wasn’t up to the job.

I dunno. A large chunk of the cash were for players Koeman really wanted - Keane, Siggy, Klassen, Rooney.

 

[davek]

...that’s an assumption, Dave. It’s not necessarilly fact to say Koeman determined ‘who it was spent on in the vast majority of cases’. My view is that Koeman and Walsh brought players in separately without any joined-up thinking or strategy. It’s why we ended up with so much waste and an unbalanced squad.

Moshiri’s culpability was appointing Walsh and Koeman, but not with backing them. Saying that, Walsh should’ve gone when it became obvious he wasn’t up to the job.

It's inconceivable that anyone other than Koeman could have chosen Klaassen, Sigurdsson, Pickford, Keane, Williams, Bolasie, Schneiderlin given that he expressed his interest and intent to get them in. Vlasic, Lookman, Ramirez = Walsh signings.

 

[Papa Shango]

That has a teary boys pen bill all over it and no mistake

Sounds more a move of a cold hearted manager who is all business and no emotion rather than a fan of the club who should be hating the potato headed knob with all his being.

 

[Eggs]

It's inconceivable that anyone other than Koeman could have chosen Klaassen, Sigurdsson, Pickford, Keane, Williams, Bolasie, Schneiderlin given that he expressed his interest and intent to get them in. Vlasic, Lookman, Ramirez = Walsh signings.

....I imagine he initiated Klaassen, guesswork on many others.

Walsh said whoever identified a target initiated the acquisition, but both had to sign off the signing. What a mess of a process, especially when neither had the gumption to use the powers of veto.

 

[Death]

His biggest mistake was allowing Kenwright to have any influence over the club whatsoever.

Ye can't blame Bill now come on. Maybe on the fact he got Moshiri. So maybe he's very much to blame.

 

[bring the ghost on]

It's inconceivable that anyone other than Koeman could have chosen Klaassen, Sigurdsson, Pickford, Keane, Williams, Bolasie, Schneiderlin given that he expressed his interest and intent to get them in. Vlasic, Lookman, Ramirez = Walsh signings.

It was well documented that Koeman wanted Klaassen, but also that there was a "double stamp" system whereby manager and DOF had to approve each transfer. Ultimately, both are equally repsonsible for all of those signings as they are the two people put in a position of responsibility to spend the money and improve the squad.

Dave, I agree with a lot of your sentiments, but when you hold a grudge, you spin the narrative to fit your agenda. Koeman was disastrous for our club, but not to hold Walsh to the same degree of culpability where player recruitment is concerned is just strange.

 

[davek]

It was well documented that Koeman wanted Klaassen, but also that there was a "double stamp" system whereby manager and DOF had to approve each transfer. Ultimately, both are equally repsonsible for all of those signings as they are the two people put in a position of responsibility to spend the money and improve the squad.

Dave, I agree with a lot of your sentiments, but when you hold a grudge, you spin the narrative to fit your agenda. Koeman was disastrous for our club, but not to hold Walsh to the same degree of culpability where player recruitment is concerned is just strange.

Koeman almost killed Everton. I know that much. He's put us back a decade in development.

 

[bring the ghost on]

Koeman almost killed Everton. I know that much. He's put us back a decade in development.

And Walsh is just as responsible.

 

[davek]

And Walsh is just as responsible.

No. Never in a month of sundays. That's just handing some unearned excuse for Koeman and Moshiri. Together those two imbeciles squandered £250M of the club's money. I;d throw them in jail if I could.

 

[hktoffee]

No. Never in a month of sundays. That's just handing some unearned excuse for Koeman and Moshiri. Together those two imbeciles squandered £250M of the club's money. I;d throw them in jail if I could.

What is the role of dol and why on earth Walsh did not have responsibilities? Because you merely hate the owner and Koeman.

 

[4737carlin]

Koeman almost killed Everton. I know that much. He's put us back a decade in development.

Agree on this, but on the pitch Silva is also takings us backwards, only the good work of Brands gives us hope.

 

[bring the ghost on]

No. Never in a month of sundays. That's just handing some unearned excuse for Koeman and Moshiri. Together those two imbeciles squandered £250M of the club's money. I;d throw them in jail if I could.

But Walsh was our director of football, head of recruitment, at the time we blew the budget on utter dross.

It’s not excusing Koeman or Moshiri at all, I said Walsh is equally to blame.

 

[davek]

Agree on this, but on the pitch Silva is also takings us backwards, only the good work of Brands gives us hope.

Ha Ha Ha.