Martinez: No Need To Sell

[Groucho]

Okey dokey. Still think your wrong though.

No problem - it's all about opinions, I seem to be well wrong here

It's good that Martinez is not in a sell-to-buy situation though.

 

[Christiffa25]

I'm not sure who was making the "spend" comments....

If it wasn't you Groucho...apologies.

 

[ijjysmith]

£9m for Andy Johnson

Bloody lol.

 

[Christiffa25]

£9m for Andy Johnson

Bloody lol.

I always thought he was good.

Until wenger put a curse on him!!

 

[Groucho]

I'm not sure who was making the "spend" comments....

If it wasn't you Groucho...apologies.

Lads, it ok to disagree you know! It's a forum after all. Maybe I missed the sell to buy point at one stage.

I'm just glad we don't have to sell Baines, provided he wants to stay, yet can still add to the squad.

 

[bluejock]

£9m for Andy Johnson

Bloody lol.

Got a boss season or so out of him and sold him for £11.5m

Good business that.

 

[bluejock]

Lads, it ok to disagree you know! It's a forum after all. Maybe I missed the sell to buy point at one stage.

I'm just glad we don't have to sell Baines, provided he wants to stay, yet can still add to the squad.

I disagree...

*legs it

 

[ijjysmith]

Got a boss season or so out of him and sold him for £11.5m

Good business that.

Was it £11.5m?!?

Even bigger lol. What on earth were Fulham thinking?

He was exactly the striker we needed for that season he was ace though.


I do enjoy it when we pull down teams trousers when selling players.

We're not bad at selling over the odds through the years really.

 

[Groucho]

http://www.grandoldteam.com/news/general-news/2013/nov/02/mccarthy-heralded-as-future-captain



Interesting that he's admitted we needed to sell to buy in the summer. Certainly contrary to Kenwright's press conference comments "I'll give him a few quid..."

His stance of dealing with transfer speculation by saying he likes his players being linked with other Clubs because it means they're doing well is also interesting, prevents any sensationalist "Not for sale" headlines

Going back to the OP, it would seem we did have to sell to buy in the summer.

 

[Tubey]

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Exactly. Even if we paid 3m for Barry (as reported to cover his astronomical wages) and 5m for Lukaku (pulling a figure completely out of the air), we should still have about 10m to spend so I don't understand why people are assuming we're penniless after the last window. The maths don't add up. I'll be disappointed if 1/2 permanent signings aren't made with this money in Jan before it completely disappears by the summer

Btw, Kenwrong did actually give Bobby money before Fellaini, people forget we spent 5m on one Arouna Kone, plus Robles cost anything upto 2m depending on who you believe

Really need to nip this in the bud, as this is the phantom economics that Kenwright does all the time.

That was not invested money; that was the cash that we had available from the phantom, failed bid for Leroy Fer/Alvaro Negredo etc. in January, which in turn was money left over from prior player sales.

The reality is that Anichebe and Fellaini were sold and we spent very little of the money that it generated - basically loan fees only. We should have a large chunk of money available for players in January if required.

Also, something Groucho said earlier about Moyes having money to spend over the years - in short, he didn't. His net spend was almost zero.

Billy Bullwrong is a cancer on the club and it's only people who fall for his Boy's Pen and financial Jedi mind trick routines that support him with the happy clapping.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

So we've got about £12 left for January right?

 

[Jeff Jones]

Don't forget the 12 to 17 million, depending on which reports are accurate, that we got for Jack Rodwell.

 

[Groucho]

Really need to nip this in the bud, as this is the phantom economics that Kenwright does all the time.

That was not invested money; that was the cash that we had available from the phantom, failed bid for Leroy Fer/Alvaro Negredo etc. in January, which in turn was money left over from prior player sales.

The reality is that Anichebe and Fellaini were sold and we spent very little of the money that it generated - basically loan fees only. We should have a large chunk of money available for players in January if required.

Also, something Groucho said earlier about Moyes having money to spend over the years - in short, he didn't. His net spend was almost zero.

Billy Bullwrong is a cancer on the club and it's only people who fall for his Boy's Pen and financial Jedi mind trick routines that support him with the happy clapping.

Yeah. I think that was the flaw in my argument - I'd not taken that into account.

What about Martinez' comments the other day though, about not having to sell now, but that he did in the summer?

 

[Jeff Jones]

I don't think he HAD to sell to buy. The Fellaini sale was always going to happen and 5 million for Vic was an absolute bonus.

 

[swisso]

Curious where these ' need to sell allegations' have come from?! The maths from the summers in's and out's means that unless we were heavily in an overdraft, there should be money remaining. Not to mention almost £10-£20m more this season from the TV deal, although I expect wages to heavily increase.