Gwladysstreetlad
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We're going to be stuck on this record for a while aren't we McBain?lol
Justice League is your typical comic film but at least it doesn't every the stamp of Marvel films which are present in every single movie they make without question. Of course Black Panther did better then Justice League but there several reasons for that. The first of which being that it is part of an already massively established cinematic universe that has been around for ten years now. Whereas the justice league is part of the DCEU which as I've already pointed out is still in its cinematic infancy. It never stood a chance againt established series, also when Justice League came out there were several major films for it to compete with. Black Panther faced no such challenge and was effectively unopposed. There's also a media crusade from critics to criticise anything DC related that goes back many years and is proven when you look at some of the bizarre reviews of the Nolan Batman trilogy and Watchmen. Also there an element of market saturation from comic films and lots of casuals don't want to pay to see that many films so will chose what they know and the already established series over the newer and evolving series. Were exacailly did I say Justice League was "ground breaking"? I think the biggest compliment I paid it was that it was an entertaining way to waste two hours and had enough differences to your average repetitive marvel film to keep me interested. Hardly shouting from the rooftops praise really?
Who said there had to be a divide? I'll praise a good marvel film when I see one. I still think the Winter Soldier and one or two of the Iron Man films are fantastic along with many others but I'll also criticise bad films when i see one regardless of how popular they are. Ragnarok proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that a film can make all the money in the world, be very successful at the box office and still be utter trash. Money made is never a good way to guage The quality of a film.
As far as the question of a run up goes you know very well that the creation of the "cinematic universe" was a game changer. To deny that and also pretend having the might of the mouse behind them wasn't significant is foolish.
I'll not deny that at one point Marvel made fresh and interesting films and did what they did very well. Not so anymore, now every marvel film is effectively a two hour trailer for the latest crossover right now it's infantry Bore which is likely to be the biggest cinematic disappointment since Matrix Reloaded. Is DC making mistakes? Sure they are, much like Marvel did early on in its cinematic universe with the Hulk but they in no way deserved the hate they get, nor are they even close to 'hot garbage' as you put it.
Wow, so you've found a bad pothole in a justice league as though they don't exist in every single comic film ever. You want to talk about inconsistency and plot holes in films well in Black Panther they have a state that only exists because it's hidden and therefore depends on remaining a secret yet they have king after king who goes to foreign country's to blow stuff up, kill rivals and not keep their mask on for five mins! How about the character Everett Ross waking up in an unknown location saved by to him an unknown person who claims to of magically saved him, Ross proceeded to blow his fellow agents cover by casually saying "he's CIA"!
See it's easy to find plotholes if you want to isn't It?
Anyway, I obviously disagree that all the DC films are bad. I'd argue that all of them are actually quite good (Suicide Squad being the exception and was terrible) and have enough small differences to Marvel films to make them familiar yet diffrent at the same time. They are far better then awful mess films like GOTG 2 and Thor Ragnarok.
Just read this novel of a post back now, 'Kin hell!
