Last Film You Watched

[4737carlin]

One with Gerrard Butler and Minnie Driver. Not the best version I've seen at all.

O yeah I've not seen that but dosent sound too good. The Hammer version is one I want to see again, not seen that one for years

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

The stamp used by Marvel is a tried and tested blockbuster model. It's not re-writing how to make films, they exploit the formula to create entertainment, and that product pays for the next product to be made. Marvel are pushing the boundaries with every film, even though you just can't seem to see it. Stylistically, thematically, creatively, these are films that have been begging to be made properly for 50 years and Marvel are crafting each episode superbly. You got a black Superhero with virtually an all black cast made by all black film makers and its just lit up the industry. If Ragnarok was such a bad film and GOTG such an awful mess they both still made more money than Justice League. No amount of spin you throw out can make the numbers / bums on seats lie.

These are films crafted by auteur filmmakers who operate within the sandbox of a bigger playground. Taika Waititi isn;t everyones cup of tea but they had the vision to say 'here you go - do something different'. The first Thor was good, the second not so good - so they mixed it up. They realised that it wasn't working and they got in a completely different style. That takes some huge balls.

Those plot holes aren't plot holes. Put down the pipe and admit Affleck is the worst Batman you could imagine. Suicide Squad was a ginormous steaming turd and the DCEU is just a disaster bar Wonder Woman. Everyone wants to see great DC stuff because their comics are miles better, but the movies are awful. Martha?

Anyway it's probably argument enough that Zat agrees with you lol

Why don't they do Transmetropolitan or Ex Machina... there's a great series called 'Chase'. Doom Patrol! Animal Man! Fables! The Authority / Stormwatch FFS!! DC are too scared to start doing this original stuff because they have failed so badly with the DCEU which is the real shame.

Lets hope they can pick it up with the Flash and Aquaman movies, although they way they have been going it's probably the nail in the coffin and say hello to another Batman Re-boot.

Pushing boundaries with every film?! You must be joking, they go further and further backwards each film as they become more entrenched in the formula of your typical marvel movie. They don't worry about one movie falling because they've built such a cult following of sheep they could make a film of captain America and black widow sitting in a room for two hours talking about the Vietnam war and it would still be raved about as the greatest most ground breaking film ever.

There's absolutely nothing ground-breaking about Black Panther, it was a cynical politically motivated attempt to overshadow Wonder Woman which actually was ground-breaking and revolutionary. They had ten years to do black panther and only did it after the success of wonder woman and you seriously believe that it was coincidence?! Give me a break, your smater them that mate.

I went into great details in my last post to explain why GOTG 2 and Ragnarok made more then Justice League. There's numerous reasons for it and none of them are DC's fault. Look at the numbers who went to see the first five marvel films and the money they made then compare them to the first five DC films and seriously tell me they are doing a bad job? Your expectations that DC would be able to come in and overtake the established universe in a matter of a few films is crazy.

The second Thor was trash and they tackled that by turning Thor and Hulk into a carcash comedy duo that can never be taken seriously again following the disaster of Ragnarok. Well done marvel/Disney! It doesn't take huge balls to just drop the work of two films and go in a totally new and random and imo bad direction, its a cowardly cynical move.

They are plotholes, big ones. You just dont want to admit marvel films aren't perfect and make the same mistakes as DC because it makes it harder for you to bash one company if the other does the same.

I don't know if you've ever read any Batman comic's and if you haven't maybe that's why you don't like Affleck but as far as I'm concerned his performances rank as the most accurate potrail of Batman ever on screen. I'm not a fan of his normally but I think he's done an excellent job in every film has been featured in. He won't be around for much longer anyway. The flash film will clearly be a flashpoint story and will end up effecting the time line so they'll be able to get someone else for the role.

I've already said suicide squad was garbage. I'm capable of admitting DC can make a bad film. Its marvel fanboys who can't even except the idea that not all marvel films are good and some are beyond awful like GOTG 2 and are just as bad if not worse then suicide squad. Man of steel was good imo, I enjoyed most of BvS and even though it make some bad choices like the Martha line and was certainly flawed but I still thought it a good film. Suicide Squad was toilet, Wonder Woman was excellent and Justice League was a fun enjoyable film. Four out of five are good for me.

None of those things you've mentioned would sell. I love most of the works you've listed there (especially Fables which it's probably my all time favourite comic series) but your crazy if you think they'd catch on or compete in movies. They just wouldn't, maybe a t.v. series but not the film no way. DC produced Watchmen and that didn't get the crdit it derserved so why would they spend a fortune on say doom petrol or stormwach when they know it'll be crapped on. Shazam is coming out next April so let's see if people are prepared to give somthing a little diffrent a go, somthing tells me though that even if it's good, you and the critics will still bash it.

The next films won't give way to another reboot, they'll have enough confidence to ignore the critic's and angry fanboys. Things will slowly start to improve as they have been each film while trying to be at least a little diffrent from the same story marvel have told for the last twenty plus films....

Another mamouth post, if you can seriously be arsed reading all that then fair play to you @McBain

 

[Prevenger17]

The stamp used by Marvel is a tried and tested blockbuster model. It's not re-writing how to make films, they exploit the formula to create entertainment, and that product pays for the next product to be made. Marvel are pushing the boundaries with every film, even though you just can't seem to see it. Stylistically, thematically, creatively, these are films that have been begging to be made properly for 50 years and Marvel are crafting each episode superbly. You got a black Superhero with virtually an all black cast made by all black film makers and its just lit up the industry. If Ragnarok was such a bad film and GOTG such an awful mess they both still made more money than Justice League. No amount of spin you throw out can make the numbers / bums on seats lie.

These are films crafted by auteur filmmakers who operate within the sandbox of a bigger playground. Taika Waititi isn;t everyones cup of tea but they had the vision to say 'here you go - do something different'. The first Thor was good, the second not so good - so they mixed it up. They realised that it wasn't working and they got in a completely different style. That takes some huge balls.

Those plot holes aren't plot holes. Put down the pipe and admit Affleck is the worst Batman you could imagine. Suicide Squad was a ginormous steaming turd and the DCEU is just a disaster bar Wonder Woman. Everyone wants to see great DC stuff because their comics are miles better, but the movies are awful. Martha?

Anyway it's probably argument enough that Zat agrees with you lol

Why don't they do Transmetropolitan or Ex Machina... there's a great series called 'Chase'. Doom Patrol! Animal Man! Fables! The Authority / Stormwatch FFS!! DC are too scared to start doing this original stuff because they have failed so badly with the DCEU which is the real shame.

Lets hope they can pick it up with the Flash and Aquaman movies, although they way they have been going it's probably the nail in the coffin and say hello to another Batman Re-boot.

Soz McB, but your "pushing the boundaries" comment can't just sit there unchallenged. I haven't seen Black Panther, but I'm going to have a stab at the overall gist here:

I wonder if Black Panther is defeated in a fight with some evil, comparably powered being in or around the 1 hour mark. I wonder then if Black Panther is either wounded or dejected, only to reinvigorated by a wise ally, who whispers something sagely to him, possibly a repetition of some line that has previously occurred in the film, as he leaves to fight the evil being one more time.

I wonder then, does the climactic fight happen on a crashing spaceship or in an active volcano while some sort of ancient maguffin bounces around which is crucial to both the antagonist's and protagonist's plans. I wonder if the evil, comparably powered being has Black Panther in a compromising position at the end, ready to kill him, before Black Panther finally manages to stab him in the heart with the ancient maguffin, resulting in a huge explosion of magic and wizardry. I wonder then, do all of the characters talk of rebuilding and change while they look outwards to the sky.

I get that a criticism of the 3 act structure could be applied to a lot of films, but Marvel aren't even dressing it up anymore. I have no dog in the DC vs Marvel hunt (haven't bothered watching Justice League either) but it seems to me that DC are doing the exact same things and getting trashed for it. Full credit has to go to Marvel's rampaging marketing machine imo, and not the "visionaries" churning out some of the most formulaic, cookie cutter films I have ever seen. They're putting bums on seats, yes, but the idea that boundaries are being pushed is laughable.

I feel like T:R is quite different to other Marvel films??

McBain mentioned that, after the relative disappointment of his first two installments, the direction they took with Thor Ragnarok was brave. On this we agree. It was a very brave decision to remove every ounce of dramatic tension, characterization and all the other good stuff that lies at the heart of a watchable film, and replace it with a kooky 80's soundtrack and some awful CGI.

I was astounded at how bad it was. The worst part, for me, was the range of "characters" on display. Here's a rundown:

Thor: Lord of Thunder, wisecracking gag merchant, quick with a bit of banter and even quicker with a hammer.
Loki: God of tricking people, wisecracking gag merchant, quick with a bit of banter and even quicker with a trick
Hulk: Giant Green Monster, wisecracking gag merchant, quick with a bit of banter and even quicker with an earth-shattering punch. Slightly different from the first two, in that his sentences aren't as well structured.
Korg: Gladiator monster thing, wisecracking gag merchant, quick with a bit of banter and even quicker with more banter.

Every single character was exactly the effing same apart from the troubled, ball breaking woman who only joined in the banter a few times. The sight of the Hulk yucking it up with Thor in a towel in some sort of deranged comedy double act will tell anyone all they need to know about this film.

Oh, and the humour, the "HUMOUR". This is the humour. There's some huge, badly rendered cosmic explosion that is supposed to represent a danger to our protagonists, after which the dramatic music goes slightly quiet, and one of the characters delivers some "hilarious", bantery understatement. The entire film is this one joke, on repeat, all the way through to the end. Horrific.

Thor Ragnarok is utterly unforgivable dross, and I can only put its popularity down to some mass hallucination on par with a Marian apparition. So so bad.

 

[coollino]

Call Me By Your Name

Lovely film, lovely score by Sufjan Stevens.

 

[Jamiednm]

The Bunny House on Netflix

Anna Faris is a Playboy bunny who gets kicked out of the mansion by Hugh Hefner, so finds her place at a down and out sorority, full of unpopular misfits. Of course, she turns them all in to hot girls with a popular sorority house.

It’s as good as it sounds.

 

[Jamiednm]

Spiceworld the Movie

Intelligent commentary of the modern popular culture scene in 1990s Britain, demonstrating how fit Posh Spice was/is, even though Geri (and to a lesser extent, Emma) got all the tabloid attention.

I always said the Spice Girls should’ve been called ‘Five Spice’.

Official rating: Five star spice

 

[LocalNative]

Just been to watch A Quiet Place, the new horror with Emily Blunt and it's one of the best films - nevermind horrors - that I've seen in the past 5 years or so. Absolutely brilliant and well thought through, genuinely terrifying in parts and completely tense from start to finish.

Very very good. There's barely any dialogue (at least spoken aloud anyway), but the film makes the silence work so well. Highly recommended. Easily a 9/10.

 

[wilfjacko]

Spiceworld the Movie

Intelligent commentary of the modern popular culture scene in 1990s Britain, demonstrating how fit Posh Spice was/is, even though Geri (and to a lesser extent, Emma) got all the tabloid attention.

I always said the Spice Girls should’ve been called ‘Five Spice’.

Official rating: Five star spice

I take it you're having a laugh

 

[COYBL25]

Just been to watch A Quiet Place, the new horror with Emily Blunt and it's one of the best films - nevermind horrors - that I've seen in the past 5 years or so. Absolutely brilliant and well thought through, genuinely terrifying in parts and completely tense from start to finish.

Very very good. There's barely any dialogue (at least spoken aloud anyway), but the film makes the silence work so well. Highly recommended. Easily a 9/10.

Thanks for that, I`ve seen the trailers and they looked good, will deffo go and see it now

 

[LocalNative]

Thanks for that, I`ve seen the trailers and they looked good, will deffo go and see it now

It's incredible. There are more and more of these 'Hollywood Horrors' coming out now and actually having some substance. Enjoy it, the final 45 mins is an absolute treat for lovers of sheer suspense and horror.

 

[McBain]

Pushing boundaries with every film?! You must be joking, they go further and further backwards each film as they become more entrenched in the formula of your typical marvel movie. They don't worry about one movie falling because they've built such a cult following of sheep they could make a film of captain America and black widow sitting in a room for two hours talking about the Vietnam war and it would still be raved about as the greatest most ground breaking film ever.

There's absolutely nothing ground-breaking about Black Panther, it was a cynical politically motivated attempt to overshadow Wonder Woman which actually was ground-breaking and revolutionary. They had ten years to do black panther and only did it after the success of wonder woman and you seriously believe that it was coincidence?! Give me a break, your smater them that mate.

I went into great details in my last post to explain why GOTG 2 and Ragnarok made more then Justice League. There's numerous reasons for it and none of them are DC's fault. Look at the numbers who went to see the first five marvel films and the money they made then compare them to the first five DC films and seriously tell me they are doing a bad job? Your expectations that DC would be able to come in and overtake the established universe in a matter of a few films is crazy.

The second Thor was trash and they tackled that by turning Thor and Hulk into a carcash comedy duo that can never be taken seriously again following the disaster of Ragnarok. Well done marvel/Disney! It doesn't take huge balls to just drop the work of two films and go in a totally new and random and imo bad direction, its a cowardly cynical move.

They are plotholes, big ones. You just dont want to admit marvel films aren't perfect and make the same mistakes as DC because it makes it harder for you to bash one company if the other does the same.

I don't know if you've ever read any Batman comic's and if you haven't maybe that's why you don't like Affleck but as far as I'm concerned his performances rank as the most accurate potrail of Batman ever on screen. I'm not a fan of his normally but I think he's done an excellent job in every film has been featured in. He won't be around for much longer anyway. The flash film will clearly be a flashpoint story and will end up effecting the time line so they'll be able to get someone else for the role.

I've already said suicide squad was garbage. I'm capable of admitting DC can make a bad film. Its marvel fanboys who can't even except the idea that not all marvel films are good and some are beyond awful like GOTG 2 and are just as bad if not worse then suicide squad. Man of steel was good imo, I enjoyed most of BvS and even though it make some bad choices like the Martha line and was certainly flawed but I still thought it a good film. Suicide Squad was toilet, Wonder Woman was excellent and Justice League was a fun enjoyable film. Four out of five are good for me.

None of those things you've mentioned would sell. I love most of the works you've listed there (especially Fables which it's probably my all time favourite comic series) but your crazy if you think they'd catch on or compete in movies. They just wouldn't, maybe a t.v. series but not the film no way. DC produced Watchmen and that didn't get the crdit it derserved so why would they spend a fortune on say doom petrol or stormwach when they know it'll be crapped on. Shazam is coming out next April so let's see if people are prepared to give somthing a little diffrent a go, somthing tells me though that even if it's good, you and the critics will still bash it.

The next films won't give way to another reboot, they'll have enough confidence to ignore the critic's and angry fanboys. Things will slowly start to improve as they have been each film while trying to be at least a little diffrent from the same story marvel have told for the last twenty plus films....

Another mamouth post, if you can seriously be arsed reading all that then fair play to you @McBain

*Takes a deep breath....

Okay.

First I'm going to address your misunderstanding about Marvel and it's formula in creating it's films. It's not just Marvel, or DC, it's every action movie ever. It's actually every film ever that follows the same framework. Every character and story trope is the same one that came before Marvel Studios, every motivation a primal one, and every narrative structure can trace it's roots to Aristotle. You can't say that one film is a car-crash and one a masterpiece using this criticism. The ingredients may vary but the recipe is exactly the same. Who created this formula? The 'Blockbuster'? Read this it's very good.

Where is your evidence the MCU goes further and further backwards with every film? Looks to me like they employ uniquely individual writers and directors to come up with unique and individual ways to tell individually unique stories within their universal framework that utilizes an in-house Studio system to keep quality high and film crews employed all year round. It looks to me like they have spent big in exactly the right way to create a solid foundation, creatively and logistically. They re-acquired most, if not all of their character rights to produce the films exactly the way they want to, and even showing traditional powerhouses like Sony how to make them properly after years and years of mismanagement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Studios

This streamlined turbo charged engine up against the dysfunctional Warner Brothers / DC marriage? They have murdered a team of A-List superheroes before they have even ironed their capes! If you think Affleck is the best Batman then this is a discussion that ends before we even get out of the car. I like older Batman from the comics, but he only works if everyone is older, ie 'Kingdom Come'. But older Batman and younger everyone else? Answer me this question then, why is Gotham City right next to Metropolis? Like you can actually see Metropolis from Gotham City? So Superman is based in Metropolis and doesn't patrol Gotham City? Early in BvS Perry White tells Kent to check out the story on the Gotham Football team. In the next scene Clark is then on a Ferry and the next he's talking to an old guy about Batman like he's never heard of him before. He's then in a staff meeting at the Daily Planet taking about the 'Bat Vigilante' using the ports to brand baddies and 'why aren't we covering that story Boss?'. So if this is 'old' Batman, how come this all new to everyone? How come in how ever many years Batman has been operation no one has ever heard of him?! Mega Plot Fail. Marvel just don't make those kinds of mistakes.

 

[McBain]

Soz McB, but your "pushing the boundaries" comment can't just sit there unchallenged. I haven't seen Black Panther, but I'm going to have a stab at the overall gist here:

I wonder if Black Panther is defeated in a fight with some evil, comparably powered being in or around the 1 hour mark. I wonder then if Black Panther is either wounded or dejected, only to reinvigorated by a wise ally, who whispers something sagely to him, possibly a repetition of some line that has previously occurred in the film, as he leaves to fight the evil being one more time.

I wonder then, does the climactic fight happen on a crashing spaceship or in an active volcano while some sort of ancient maguffin bounces around which is crucial to both the antagonist's and protagonist's plans. I wonder if the evil, comparably powered being has Black Panther in a compromising position at the end, ready to kill him, before Black Panther finally manages to stab him in the heart with the ancient maguffin, resulting in a huge explosion of magic and wizardry. I wonder then, do all of the characters talk of rebuilding and change while they look outwards to the sky.

I get that a criticism of the 3 act structure could be applied to a lot of films, but Marvel aren't even dressing it up anymore. I have no dog in the DC vs Marvel hunt (haven't bothered watching Justice League either) but it seems to me that DC are doing the exact same things and getting trashed for it. Full credit has to go to Marvel's rampaging marketing machine imo, and not the "visionaries" churning out some of the most formulaic, cookie cutter films I have ever seen. They're putting bums on seats, yes, but the idea that boundaries are being pushed is laughable.





McBain mentioned that, after the relative disappointment of his first two installments, the direction they took with Thor Ragnarok was brave. On this we agree. It was a very brave decision to remove every ounce of dramatic tension, characterization and all the other good stuff that lies at the heart of a watchable film, and replace it with a kooky 80's soundtrack and some awful CGI.

I was astounded at how bad it was. The worst part, for me, was the range of "characters" on display. Here's a rundown:

Thor: Lord of Thunder, wisecracking gag merchant, quick with a bit of banter and even quicker with a hammer.
Loki: God of tricking people, wisecracking gag merchant, quick with a bit of banter and even quicker with a trick
Hulk: Giant Green Monster, wisecracking gag merchant, quick with a bit of banter and even quicker with an earth-shattering punch. Slightly different from the first two, in that his sentences aren't as well structured.
Korg: Gladiator monster thing, wisecracking gag merchant, quick with a bit of banter and even quicker with more banter.

Every single character was exactly the effing same apart from the troubled, ball breaking woman who only joined in the banter a few times. The sight of the Hulk yucking it up with Thor in a towel in some sort of deranged comedy double act will tell anyone all they need to know about this film.

Oh, and the humour, the "HUMOUR". This is the humour. There's some huge, badly rendered cosmic explosion that is supposed to represent a danger to our protagonists, after which the dramatic music goes slightly quiet, and one of the characters delivers some "hilarious", bantery understatement. The entire film is this one joke, on repeat, all the way through to the end. Horrific.

Thor Ragnarok is utterly unforgivable dross, and I can only put its popularity down to some mass hallucination on par with a Marian apparition. So so bad.

This is just wrong on every level and I'll get round to explaining why maybe after tea ok.

 

[Prevenger17]

This is just wrong on every level and I'll get round to explaining why maybe after tea ok.

I accept your surrender

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Started watching The Commuter lastnight, turned off after 20mins, boring and done to death, Flightplan is superior and a very similar idea.

 

[Jamiednm]

Started watching The Commuter lastnight, turned off after 20mins, boring and done to death, Flightplan is superior and a very similar idea.

I fell asleep during The Commuter.