Drico
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If there's one thing nobody needs German input on, it's Israel. For obvious reasons, they are simply not capable of objective analysis.
Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state
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The Farhud | Holocaust Encyclopedia
The Farhud (pogrom), an outbreak of mob violence against Baghdad Jewry in June 1941, was a turning point in the history of Jews in Iraq. Learn more
The Israeli's will not under react on this and the losers will be the gaza civilians and the hostages.
In the seemingly never ending 'peace talks' I thought the aim was to get the two sides to agree to the others existence.
It seems only one side has really bought into that basic premise and one side used 'the peace' to prepare for war...which coincidentally, broke out 2 weeks after Biden freed up $6Billion worth of Iranian assets.
The Inquest; the supposedly crash hot Mossad and the rest of various US high-tech three letter agencies have had their arses handed to them on a plate for not picking up on it
The Israeli border force / army were all literally asleep and undone by a low tech but imaginative operation...a couple of JCBs, some 2 up / driver and gunner microlites and motor bikes, plus 4x4s.
All drove past the multi million dollar Leopards or Abrams while the crews were farting in their beds.
Meanwhile, The Israeli's will go in to gaza in full 'old testement eye for an eye' mode looking for hostages and anybody else on a 'Hamas List' even if they only delivered falafel.
In the seemingly never ending 'peace talks' I thought the aim was to get the two sides to agree to the others existence.
It seems only one side has really bought into that basic premise and one side used 'the peace' to prepare for war...which coincidentally, broke out 2 weeks after Biden freed up $6Billion worth of Iranian assets.
The Inquest; the supposedly crash hot Mossad and the rest of various US high-tech three letter agencies have had their arses handed to them on a plate for not picking up on it
The Israeli border force / army were all literally asleep and undone by a low tech but imaginative operation...a couple of JCBs, some 2 up / driver and gunner microlites and motor bikes, plus 4x4s.
All drove past the multi million dollar Leopards or Abrams while the crews were farting in their beds.
Meanwhile, The Israeli's will go in to gaza in full 'old testement eye for an eye' mode looking for hostages and anybody else on a 'Hamas List' even if they only delivered falafel.
Martin Alvito
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Unlikely. You're correct that this is a question for an area specialist, though, which I am not. I am much longer Russia and the Far East than the Middle East.
US sends warships and fighter jets to support Israel
Biden has deployed the USS Gerald R. Ford carrier strike group to Israel to begin supplying munitions for a counterattackwww.telegraph.co.uk
Well this is all very grim. I am no way an expert on the politics of this region, but does this signal the potential for wider conflict?
That aside, there's an awful lot of people being killed out there
Edit: it's the Telegraph so they're all in on one narrative, more interested in the UK and US moves.
What I can tell you is that every nation-state besides Israel in the region would prefer to keep this at the level of a proxy war between Israel and Hamas, in much the same way that NATO would prefer to avoid open conflict with Russia, and for the same reasons. At best, limited military victory can be achieved against a nuclear power. You can arm twist, but regime change has to come from within. If you have your own nukes, the reverse is also true, but the disaster scenario is not an appealing risk. As a result, what we see time and again are scenarios where a nuclear power goes to war and someone else bankrolls the adversary, in the cynical furtherance of their own interests.
If you want a take on what Hezbollah will do, and how the government of Lebanon might respond to further escalation by members of its recognized political party that commands a sizable paramilitary force, then you need to ask an expert.
"They respond by aiding in the destruction of Hamas." oh right, Israel will just return the land then will they??
They have done it for years.
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The Farhud | Holocaust Encyclopedia
The Farhud (pogrom), an outbreak of mob violence against Baghdad Jewry in June 1941, was a turning point in the history of Jews in Iraq. Learn moreencyclopedia.ushmm.org
Are. Those who stayed living in apartheid. ?
BNJ1878
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Those that stayed?
I'd guess there's fewer than 10 if any at all.
Is that apartheid or just a big fat "F you, we don't want you here?"
Its not easy all this political judgement from afar, is it?
Edit: just checked. There's 3 (or there was in 2022)
Further edit, and the source is Wikipedia so caution advised....
In 1948, the year of Israel's independence, there were about 150,000 Jews in Iraq.[53] Persecution of Jews greatly increased that year:
- In July 1948, the government passed a law making Zionism a capital offense, with a minimum sentence of seven years imprisonment. Any Jew could be convicted of Zionism based only on the sworn testimony of two Muslim witnesses, with virtually no avenue of appeal available.
- On August 28, 1948, Jews were forbidden to engage in banking or foreign currency transactions.
- In September 1948, Jews were dismissed from the railways, the post office, the telegraph department, and the Finance Ministry on the ground that they were suspected of "sabotage and treason".
- On October 8, 1948, the issuance of export and import licenses to Jewish merchants was forbidden.
- On October 19, 1948, the discharge of all Jewish officials and workers from all governmental departments was ordered.
- In October, the Egyptian paper El-Ahram estimated that as a result of arrests, trials, and sequestration of property, the Iraqi treasury collected some 20 million dinars or the equivalent of 80 million U.S. dollars.
- On December 2, 1948, the Iraq government suggested to oil companies operating in Iraq that no Jewish employees be accepted.[54]
So no, not barricaded into an enclave, not denied power, water, food, etc. But 100% 2nd class citizens and ostracised by society.
Does the poor treatment of Iraqi Jews justify the Israeli actions against Palestinians? No, of course it doesn't. But please don't believe the myth that it's all one sided. It never is. Both sides are full of utter vermin.
To believe otherwise simply makes you an ignorant pub bore.
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What it does do, is inspires your other neighbours to go around and have a dig too. You're seeing that already with Hezbollah attacking from Lebanon in the North and it won't be long before other Arab state further support too.
Spadge Vernacular
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davek
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GTF.
Spadge Vernacular
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Tbf, Mike doesn't role like that. Yes he had his demons as a younger man but he has since found peace within himself. @The binman chronicles shouldn't worry, IMO.
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Didn't some Israeli minister/ army spokesman say the rules of war are rewritten following the rave attack?
There will be a lot of suffering inflicted. Israel demands its retribution No doubt it will escalate the atrocities from both sides and it will just get worse before anything gets resolved if ever.
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