Yarrgh
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Yep. I fully agree. When you've been oppressed and degraded for so long, it becomes a struggle simply for survival for their kids first and foremost and hope that they find a normal life.
It's a kin mess.
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It's a kin mess.
BBC still going with Israelis being killed, but Palestinians just "dying".
EDIT: They don't even refer to them as Palestinians.
Spadge Vernacular
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Tbf, your words mean nothing. You are a wum who has demonstrated that you have no morals or credibility.
Yesterday's actions won't stop the killing, it will bring much more death.
The binman chronicles
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Them trying to take on the Israelis will not bring justice, more suicide. Roping in other Arab countries with bigger militaries will just pull the US into conflict and then how many will die in vain? The only way forward is for the Palestinians to denounce violence and have a democracy that pushes for better conditions and integration over time. I may not agree with what Israel have done but at the end of the day if you have a section that want to kill you constantly then you will put up barriers to stop that. Only time and trust will allow that to change, will that ever happen? Doubt it due to the ingrained hate. I just feel sad for the children that are denied a half decent life due to the warmongers that are happy to see their own people die for the 'cause'.
How can you expect Palestinians to denounce violence when they are subjected to it every day?
BNJ1878
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No Arab nation will fight shoulder to shoulder with the Palestinians (Hamas/Hez) against Israel.
They've looked on with a furrowed brows and come out with the "Oh dear, how terrible" soundbites but they haven't gotten their hands dirty in decades.
They're not going to start now.
Every single time some power encroached, tried to colonize/occupy someone else land people responded with resistance and violence, comments above saying about they should denounce violence is just so unrealistic ffs, you being killed and colonized on your own land, you would too.
Irish did it to you, Algerians to French, we did it when Italians occupied us in ww2 here. Everyone who could carry the gun joined the resistance and Partisans.
This can end only two ways, either resistance wins (zero chance for that considering balance of power) or Israelis flatten them once for all, this almost certainly gonna happen.
Irish did it to you, Algerians to French, we did it when Italians occupied us in ww2 here. Everyone who could carry the gun joined the resistance and Partisans.
This can end only two ways, either resistance wins (zero chance for that considering balance of power) or Israelis flatten them once for all, this almost certainly gonna happen.
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I've seen them write killed in Gaza too mate. Wouldn't read into that too much, journalistic language avoids using the same verb too many times.
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Yeah I didn't think they would, more just a response to Dave's hope they 'all get behind them'.
tsubaki
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The big problem with this is that is exactly what the PLO (and Fatah later) did in the 90s and 00s.
Every deal signed resulted in more settlements, more land seizures, more abuses, more raids, more unpunished killings and ultimately more occupation. It achieved nothing except to further discredit them, especially compared to Hamas who (for all the horror inflicted on Gaza since 2005) at least regularly have a pop back.
For a genuine peace to come about, the part of Palestinian society that would accept a two state solution has to be engaged with and achieve success; otherwise those who achieve success with violence will be in charge.
The binman chronicles
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The perpetual tit for tat violence will always be there unless one side demonstrate that change is possible. If I lived next door to Mike Tyson going around and trying to punch him in the face over a territory dispute is not going to make my situation any better.
Taifi gorm
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Cough like the PLO etc have done before. Yeah Israel really respected that.
tsubaki
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There is a lot of assumption there - if this conflict doesn’t end with a rapid military victory for the IDF, the combination of an apparent loss of military dominance and the sight of Palestinians being starved to death could easily result in regional moves to force the Israelis to stop it.
This is not the 90s/00s where there’s an unchallenged hegemon backing them up, these countries by themselves have a lot more power now and there’s always China and Russia in the background. Israel could find itself in a very dangerous place indeed very quickly.
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